Black moon Lilith in 1st house

[HighlyEvolved]

What do you think about this placement? I was wondering if it can make person somehow sexy? Also, is Black moon Lilith really so negative as some astrologers say, or do you think there is some good quality in it? What it means to you?

 

[Acratchee]

I'm under the impression that BLilith is an asteroid that reveals what we are capable of at our worst.
I also share this placement. I read that this placement gives the native physical pleasure derived from confrontation.
This is a remarkably accurate description of me. Here's a couple of story: I once was in a low impact gym class. I tried to be an inspiration and motivator with my peers by wearing vintage workout clothes, playing disco, and engage people in a human way... They all loved me for it....Venus is 3 degrees in my 1 st house, but I'm not rubbing anyone's face in it! We are all beautiful! One day, a shadier individual was videoing me on his phone while I "wasnt paying attention"...I immediately took it to the instructor privately, and she dismissed it with "what can you do?"....I went back to my fitness ball... re mounted it, and when he 'did it again' I stood up with a wrath that vibrated me, crackling electric...I verbally confronted him, loudly and with authority about what he was doing, and what he intended to use his media footage for. I compared him to the rest of the class, who were all looking at him. He was humiliated and revealed and I drank it deeply in with satisfaction truth and justice. We all saw him. Clearly.He left that class never to return.

Another eg...I was at lunch from my job... It went into a store to get a ramen bowl. While in the store, I saw a man from my low impact class. A large, over weight ethnic man who often jogged across from me and was a simple and kind soul. In the store he was accompanied by a SSW or care taker. I didn't know that about him to begin with, but digested it as I could hear her vocalizing in an annoyed way throughout the aisles.
I happened behind them at the register and was doing my best to mind my own business. She was now barraging him for his lack of ability to budget his money, and was insisting he put back the junk food he had selected. She was talking About him in third person to the clerk, saying he was disgusting. She looked back at me, noticed my disgusted face,and asked me if he disgusted me to..... It was my spring board.
I was already shaking off the ground like an angry Chihuahua in silence, but when she open her mouth to invite my criticisms, they came spewing out on her. 'YOU are the disgusting one! ' and I kept right on her about how she should be fired And wasn't av very good human. I'm certain she and he will never forget that day. I won't ever that's for sure. It was my pleasure to say my ugly words that are true. Even when I'm outnumbered I still tend to do this. I tend to do this to my family to, sadly. Its not always good.

 

[david starling]

I'm under the impression that BLilith is an asteroid that reveals what we are capable of at our worst.
I also share this placement. I read that this placement gives the native physical pleasure derived from confrontation.
This is a remarkably accurate description of me. Here's a couple of story: I once was in a low impact gym class. I tried to be an inspiration and motivator with my peers by wearing vintage workout clothes, playing disco, and engage people in a human way... They all loved me for it....Venus is 3 degrees in my 1 st house, but I'm not rubbing anyone's face in it! We are all beautiful! One day, a shadier individual was videoing me on his phone while I "wasnt paying attention"...I immediately took it to the instructor privately, and she dismissed it with "what can you do?"....I went back to my fitness ball... re mounted it, and when he 'did it again' I stood up with a wrath that vibrated me, crackling electric...I verbally confronted him, loudly and with authority about what he was doing, and what he intended to use his media footage for. I compared him to the rest of the class, who were all looking at him. He was humiliated and revealed and I drank it deeply in with satisfaction truth and justice. We all saw him. Clearly.He left that class never to return.

Another eg...I was at lunch from my job... It went into a store to get a ramen bowl. While in the store, I saw a man from my low impact class. A large, over weight ethnic man who often jogged across from me and was a simple and kind soul. In the store he was accompanied by a SSW or care taker. I didn't know that about him to begin with, but digested it as I could hear her vocalizing in an annoyed way throughout the aisles.
I happened behind them at the register and was doing my best to mind my own business. She was now barraging him for his lack of ability to budget his money, and was insisting he put back the junk food he had selected. She was talking About him in third person to the clerk, saying he was disgusting. She looked back at me, noticed my disgusted face,and asked me if he disgusted me to..... It was my spring board.
I was already shaking off the ground like an angry Chihuahua in silence, but when she open her mouth to invite my criticisms, they came spewing out on her. 'YOU are the disgusting one! ' and I kept right on her about how she should be fired And wasn't av very good human. I'm certain she and he will never forget that day. I won't ever that's for sure. It was my pleasure to say my ugly words that are true. Even when I'm outnumbered I still tend to do this. I tend to do this to my family to, sadly. Its not always good.

Enjoyed your stories, but BML is different from asteroid Lilith. It's marked at the point of Lunar apogee.

 

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[Vyri]

HighlyEvolved,

The Black *** (as I call her) Moon Lilith is an affront to my sincere attempts at friendship, camaraderie. She is in my 7th house, a satellite moon = a symbol of denial (women friendships-women in general of higher/lower positioning consideration in society, including my ability to form romantic unions of all types, romantically, public associations) close enough to my 8th house Cusp at 28deg Pisces to cause all sorts of havoc with my recognition of true friendship or creating them (as mentioned above) with my gender-virtuous or not, (as her personality is beneath contempt) and her position here is always the other woman whom has played apart in many a heartache (personally speaking) romantically in many a scenario for me (as the sexual other mistress)..as I have lost several paramour to her charms bc of her beauty and craft, the effect from her position 7th/8th houses. (The Pisces temptress and betrayer possibly of both genders?)

She may also represent the friend that turns on you for reasons of usury or position, the laughter heard after the black deed is accomplished-she surreptitiously glories in having betrayed her trusting-friendly victims.

Lilith is sextile my Venus in the 9th house and understands my 9th house (Sun/Jupiter at 1deg in orb with each other in Taurus opposition Mars in Scorpio-my 3rd house secretive occult nature.)

She represents the hidden treachery that greets you with a smile (women in general who have a hidden evil resources-agenda of their own-manipulative-lying divisive, wishing to cause terrible sorrow-secretly snickering of its premeditated-ness) scurrilous-conniving-weasel like natured women.

Those with it prominent in their birth charts in angles and in communicative houses/signs are known to create havoc for women and men alike..they wish to wear the pants in all positions of authority that are naturally given to men and/or others with more virtuous qualities. If they are like the author of the original screech owl fame attested of by Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson they (women of that caliber) are creatures in the night that create all types of trial for children and men especially-having no true communion or love with their offspring. Moon Lilith has a reaping nature-and a fame of murdering her children which Adam sired for her out of spite. In her secret wrath and anger, jealousy-she (folk lore as the hidden Moon or woman without honor or position given by Adam by his authority in his tribe-was overlooked) wished to kill him to usurp his position that the Lord gave to him after Eve was created for/by Adam (symbolically) made by God/man-being under his rib and described as the brighter virtuous satellite as Lilith is a satellite.

She was banished and her line was not included in the spiritual part of the Hebrew testaments of any religious note, in the Torah/Talmud or other books. She is known as the first wife of common law union with Adam with no religious awakening for her part in humanity. When she is found in the 4th house or the 1st house she is often considered the reason for disfigurement in children and the cause for many other physically debilitating-diseased estates.

In the Talmud Lilith quarreled with Adam, left him and was pursued and overtaken by three angels. They sought unsuccessfully to persuade her toward a regenerate self but she refused in anger. Later her insane jealousy of Adam's new companion Eve caused her to return in revenge and ensnare their children, and we blame her for Cain's fury against his brother Abel.

Lilith's motion is 3 degrees and 2 minutes each day.

The Dark Moon Lilith in Astrology by Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson. Copyright 1961 reprinted 1965-1969 published by the 1st Temple of Jewish/religious rites in Los Angeles

All the best
Vyri

P.S. I hate her with a passion.

 

[Acratchee]

Enjoyed your stories, but BML is different from asteroid Lilith. It's marked at the point of Lunar apogee.

That's right! My mistake...keep trying to find the asteroid lilith in my chart unsuccessfully. This stuff really makes my head spin...I double checked and my BML. Asc house, but also in Sagittarius.... So that seems pretty noble.... Thanks for pointing that out to me.... Gotta start writing this stuff down.

 

[Acratchee]

HighlyEvolved,

The Black *** (as I call her) Moon Lilith is an affront to my sincere attempts at friendship, camaraderie. She is in my 7th house, a satellite moon = a symbol of denial (women friendships-women in general of higher/lower positioning consideration in society, including my ability to form romantic unions of all types, romantically, public associations) close enough to my 8th house Cusp at 28deg Pisces to cause all sorts of havoc with my recognition of true friendship or creating them (as mentioned above) with my gender-virtuous or not, (as her personality is beneath contempt) and her position here is always the other woman whom has played apart in many a heartache (personally speaking) romantically in many a scenario for me (as the sexual other mistress)..as I have lost several paramour to her charms bc of her beauty and craft, the effect from her position 7th/8th houses. (The Pisces temptress and betrayer possibly of both genders?)

She may also represent the friend that turns on you for reasons of usury or position, the laughter heard after the black deed is accomplished-she surreptitiously glories in having betrayed her trusting-friendly victims.

Lilith is sextile my Venus in the 9th house and understands my 9th house (Sun/Jupiter at 1deg in orb with each other in Taurus opposition Mars in Scorpio-my 3rd house secretive occult nature.)

She represents the hidden treachery that greets you with a smile (women in general who have a hidden evil resources-agenda of their own-manipulative-lying divisive, wishing to cause terrible sorrow-secretly snickering of its premeditated-ness) scurrilous-conniving-weasel like natured women.

Those with it prominent in their birth charts in angles and in communicative houses/signs are known to create havoc for women and men alike..they wish to wear the pants in all positions of authority that are naturally given to men and/or others with more virtuous qualities. If they are like the author of the original screech owl fame attested of by Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson they (women of that caliber) are creatures in the night that create all types of trial for children and men especially-having no true communion or love with their offspring. Moon Lilith has a reaping nature-and a fame of murdering her children which Adam sired for her out of spite. In her secret wrath and anger, jealousy-she (folk lore as the hidden Moon or woman without honor or position given by Adam by his authority in his tribe-was overlooked) wished to kill him to usurp his position that the Lord gave to him after Eve was created for/by Adam (symbolically) made by God/man-being under his rib and described as the brighter virtuous satellite as Lilith is a satellite.

She was banished and her line was not included in the spiritual part of the Hebrew testaments of any religious note, in the Torah/Talmud or other books. She is known as the first wife of common law union with Adam with no religious awakening for her part in humanity. When she is found in the 4th house or the 1st house she is often considered the reason for disfigurement in children and the cause for many other physically debilitating-diseased estates.



Lilith's motion is 3 degrees and 2 minutes each day.

The Dark Moon Lilith in Astrology by Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson. Copyright 1961 reprinted 1965-1969 published by the 1st Temple of Jewish/religious rites in Los Angeles

All the best
Vyri

P.S. I hate her with a passion.

First, my condolences on a frustrating placement.
Second, I love that you mentioned her Talmudic origins. Here is a link to a translation of an epic poem of her
http://religion.lilithezine.com/The_Legend_of_Lilith.html
She's listed as Sumerian goddess. I'm hungry for these stories!