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hi pipl!
i need help chosing my carrier:
im libra,asc capricorn (neptun is in my 12th hause conj. asc).
in first hause i have moon i n aquarius.
mc is in scorpio-culminant mercury n pluto,also in scorpio.
mc sextile neptun n asc.
i m NOT interested in psychiatry(i hope i spelled it or enything right),not interested in dealing with crime,or things like that.
i know ,i know mortician...well thats ok ,but i want a second opinion.tnx
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speaking power, to Lea

Lea,

Your chart is about powerful speaking/writing, since Scorpio (transformation, also power, research) modifies Pluto (transformation, also power, research), and Pluto is conjunct (energy is combined with) Midheaven (outer world) and Mercury (thinking, also writing/daily work). Also, you have your Jupiter (expansion, also publishing) focused in the 3rd house (thinking, also writing).

There is a need to be "powerful" and there is anger, since Uranus (friends, also rebellion) squares (energy needs to be combined with) Mars (being, also anger).

In addition, seven of your planets are on or close to the left (self) side of your chart, so you tend to focus on yourself.

And your North node (future goals) is focused in the 2nd house (physical, also personal money).

So there is a powerful ability to research and talk or write about what you know. Your energies may be driven by anger, which motivates you...it will be important to control and USE that anger (rather than letting it get "loose"). You tend to focus on things that impact you personally, and you will want to be well paid for your efforts.

Perhaps you could do some self-publishing about your experiences with anger or about the things which you find (or have found) personally upsetting. With Pluto on the midheaven, you will tend to want to control things, so you probably will want to have a job which gives you lots of freedom to do things YOUR way, such as in freelancing.

Careering,

Tim
 
Hello Pale!

I got a glance at your chart yesterday before Tim posted, but I got pretty much the same impression as he wrote. I would have to agree with Tim. And you say that you already know most of those things? Then I guess that's a confirmation.

However, after looking a little closer at your chart today, I had some additional possibilities that might be the topics of such writing. Does some of your anger concern social injustices, especially to women, and especially the abuse of money by those who have it? I could see these as possibilities in your chart. Possibly are you angry at the impossible expectations placed on women, and maybe especially unrealistic physical beauty expectations? I noticed that your 20* Aquarius moon/1st exactly trines 20* Venus in Libra/9th. I thought this could possibly be writing or even in the legal profession - defending women's rights. Or possibly even working with abused women - counseling, or a women's shelter? This trine also trines Chiron 28* Gemini/6th by a wide orb, making a Grand Trine in Air. I'm in the wider orb camp, so I would count it. This would again show writing and/or counseling and/or law as possibilities.

I see a strong money theme in the chart, and I seemed to lean towards you having anger at social injustice and the gap between the rich and the poor - also an area women are more affected by in general than men. Neptune in Capricorn/12th squares both Sun in Libra/9th and Mars in Virgo/8th - both signifiers for men. And men generally control the world's money. Possibly also you see marriage as a trap because of this.

Also, Saturn in Sag in the 11th, duplicated house- possibly anger over religion- especially false teachings that suppress freedom in general, and women specifically? If I remember duplicated/intercepted houses correctly, the duplicated house is the key. Your intercepted houses are the 2nd/8th on the Virgo/Pisces axis. Mars in Virgo is in an interecepted house (8th),as well as your NN and SN. Mars in Virgo in inconjunct Jupiter (r) in Aries/3rd - again a possible indicator of anger at men. This could carry over into anger at the image of God the Father that you've been shown. You could even be an atheist. The intercepted houses have to do with "slavery"and material supply, as well. Tie all of this together, and your work could affect large groups of people, probably especially in Third World countries, where these issues are huge problems. The oppression of women under religion could be another possibility.

I'm just trying to tie all of this together. I generally don't do career readings, as it's not my forte. I guess though I'm reading this with my usual slant on it even though it's a career reading. But again, my strong initial impression was that you had writing/communication talent, and a connection with anger.

Also, my chart has several similarities to yours. I have a Cappy AC, with an Aquarius Moon in the 1st. Your Chiron is at the same degree of Gemini as my Jupiter, and your Saturn is at the same degree as my Mercury. So it's possible I'm reading my own chart in yours, to a degree. So if this doesn't apply to you at all, please forgive me. However, I would be very interested to hear your feedback on this. I'm still in beginning astrology, so I can grow from hearing how close I got on any of this.

Best of luck!!!
 
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i must appologise for my grammar,im learnin eng. for 12. yrs now, so it would be a shame not to know it.
but i did not wrote nothing on eng. for months now,only about the fibres(im studying fashion design),so i kinda rusted.:eek:


for freedom:
i cant see your chart,its blury-can you post it again ina larger format?
you say that your mercury is in sagg. n your jupiter is about 29. deg. of gemini....
ok.
from this i can see that u r open minded.optimistic,probably religious,but jupiter in gemini just cant be stil-you must find othewr ways to aproach to religion.
29th deg. is also call magical cause it gaves you the knowledge that most of pipl dont have.
for eg.:sai babas sun is on 29 th deg. of scorpio-this the most powerful 29th. deg. .
it gives him the power to materialize objects out of thin air.
like i said try to post your chart again.



now about my chart:
ok. i was thinking about writting the novel about astrology , or vampires(but not so cheezy as anne rice does),or something like that...
im also joinin a goth bend-what do you think-is the music form me?
im not a materialistic person,but i know that my sn is in my 2nd hause so thats the way i must turn.
i believe in god ,but not in church-in fact i hate priests n i found nuns stupid.
all the padofiles,money-grabbers,come on-maybe my hate for all that is comming from my past life ?
hmmmmmmm.........:confused:
yes, i would like to help people that r tortured,but law or social work just aint for me.
after all scorpio has a big part of my personality.
i know,i know neptune is conj. asc -well nice ,but asc is just a mask to the world-the way others see us,not the way we r.
again eg. my friend has asc in scorpio ,moon (we r talking about female) in aq. n mc in canacer- she was a nervious,hard-to-be-with-person(asc),but when u get to know her better ull see how sensitive she is (moon ,mc).
 
Pale,

Ah! Don't worry about the language barrier. I understand you just fine.

As to my chart, with the browser I use, I just click on the chart once it appears. It will then appear larger and clearer. Hopefully that will work for yours. Sometimes a little orange ball appears with arrows on it when you are on the upper left hand corner of the image ( with some browsers) . On those, you click on the orange ball when it appears, and the image will enlarge and clear.

As to my Jupiter in Gemini, it is actually 28 degrees, and so many odd minutes. I don't know how to read minutes yet. Sigh...... It says 48'17 or something like that. And yes, I am rather unconventional when it comes to my religious beliefs - no traditional stuff for me. I have braided together my own belief from a mixture of Pentecostal, Buddhist, Native American, Pagan, and the Ascended Masters teachings. I'm probably one of the most open "religious" people I've ever met. ;)

now about my chart:
ok. i was thinking about writting the novel about astrology , or vampires(but not so cheezy as anne rice does),or something like that...
im also joinin a goth bend-what do you think-is the music form me?
im not a materialistic person,but i know that my sn is in my 2nd hause so thats the way i must turn.
i believe in god ,but not in church-in fact i hate priests n i found nuns stupid.
all the padofiles,money-grabbers,come on-maybe my hate for all that is comming from my past life ?
hmmmmmmm.........:confused:
yes, i would like to help people that r tortured,but law or social work just aint for me.
after all scorpio has a big part of my personality.
i know,i know neptune is conj. asc -well nice ,but asc is just a mask to the world-the way others see us,not the way we r.
Well, with Mercury conjunct Pluto in Scorpio in the 9th, conjunct the MC, it sounds like you have the makings of a very insightful, deep kind of writing. If you have a good understanding of the occult, possibly that would be subject matter for you - astrology included. I read on your other post about past lives. You seem to have a good astrological perspective to add on that. I would be interested in what you have to say about mine in that regard.

As to what kind of music??? I'm sorry, I don't know what kind of music style a "Goth band" is. I guess whatever really speaks to you.

Yeah, with your TN in 2nd, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 12th, conjunct AC, part of your life lesson this time around may be to "spritualize matter". Who knows, you may be manifesting things out of thin air, like Sai Baba. ;)

As to your comments about past lives and "the church", all I can say is that your Saturn in Sag in the 11th IS in a duplicated house. My understanding of planets in a duplicated house is that they are a key to unlocking the intercepted houses, which are the 2nd/8th. Perhaps you were persecuted by "the church" in a past life because you did have some kind of healing power - called a witch, etc. Has any of that ever come up for you?

As to my comments about your career...... Eh! That's why I don't give career readings much! ;) However, as strongly as this appears in your chart, I would not be surprised at all if some of the issues I described become more important and clearer to you as you get older. You are still young, and have just begun to live out your chart. Not to say that you would be in law or social work, just that you may come to feel very strongly about some or all of the issues I outlines, and that these may play a big part in whatever career you choose to pursue.

Freedomlover
 
first i must say that playing with occult is dangerues(ok every1 knows t5hat) but i know it from first hand-i was wicca n i almost gone crazy -all the beings n stuff...
i still cant get read of them.:(
no i cant materialize objects (i would be a ritch ***** :D ) -thats a missunderstanding,an eg.
i must ask u -r u an american(or is that just an avatar).
a goth band-like sisters of mercy,moonspell,type o negative,...
i believe ,you have heard at least just one of them?
 
your chart:as i said i had some computer problems with it.
moon in ag.-inovative,a rebell,maybe a fair skin,bigger eyes,accent on the nose,...
hm,... cuminat planet neptune in scorpio in 10 th hause,n ruler of 12.th hause in the 6(28 deg),it doesnt surprise that u r interested in occult.
but u dont have difficulties cause the ruler of 12th is jupiter ,n in your chart it brings strange friends(faerys ,astral friends?).
in past life u lived abroad,u were very succesful,n maybe blond-the friends u had then,u have now n as i see most of them r also in occult sphere(pluto in virgo in 8th,while the ruler of virgo is in 12th).
u must be carefull,cause pluto n uranus in in 8th r brinin suden death.
could be a desease or a sickness thats been caried around by generations.
i dont wanna make u paranoic,just be careful.
maybe your job is also ezoteric or in some way conected with occult,but acting or music is something i would recomend.
i see at least 2 kids,they can be interested in spiritual n the second child is a person from your last life.
u can be nervious n (self)destructive,so try to change that.
 
Pale,
First of all, please let me clarify that I in no way shape nor form meant to imply that either you or I were mixed up in anything "dark". When I use the word "occult", I mean it in the dictionary sense - it simply means "hidden" , and therefore the things that the average person never seeks out to study. Astrology is generally listed as being "occult", as well as tarot cards, Ascended Master teachings, - even herbal cures that are passed down within families can be considered "occult". When I used the word, I meant you were "deep".

I had some friends once who were Wiccan, and I learned the basics of what they believe from them. I agree with the "respecting the earth" and belief that elementals (faeries, etc.) exist. To my knowledge, they kept on the true path with it. Although one of them told me that many who get involved in it get "pulled" in to interacting with dark forces, many times out of ignorance, etc. I generally don't get too close to them for that reason. In my experience, the dark forces infiltrating the groups is pretty prevalent. I'm sorry to hear that you were one who had a bad experience. If the beings are still bothering you, then you have some "open doors" in the spirit realm that need closed. Pray, and God will make a way for you to be free. I will pray for you, as well.

As to the "materializing", I didn't mean to imply you could do it NOW. ;). Simply that if you seek a strong, loving, spiritual path this life, it could be possible for you to learn how.

Yes, I live in America. I strongly identify with the Statue of Liberty, so I chose it as my avatar.

As to the goth band..... uh....... I'm about twice your age, so please forgive me...... none of them sound familiar..... maybe "Type O negative", a little, not sure.


your chart:as i said i had some computer problems with it.
moon in ag.-inovative,a rebell,maybe a fair skin,bigger eyes,accent on the nose,...
hm,... cuminat planet neptune in scorpio in 10 th hause,n ruler of 12.th hause in the 6(28 deg),it doesnt surprise that u r interested in occult.
but u dont have difficulties cause the ruler of 12th is jupiter ,n in your chart it brings strange friends(faerys ,astral friends?).
in past life u lived abroad,u were very succesful,n maybe blond-the friends u had then,u have now n as i see most of them r also in occult sphere(pluto in virgo in 8th,while the ruler of virgo is in 12th).
u must be carefull,cause pluto n uranus in in 8th r brinin suden death.
could be a desease or a sickness thats been caried around by generations.
i dont wanna make u paranoic,just be careful.
maybe your job is also ezoteric or in some way conected with occult,but acting or music is something i would recomend.
i see at least 2 kids,they can be interested in spiritual n the second child is a person from your last life.
u can be nervious n (self)destructive,so try to change that.
Are you still having problems viewing my chart? The information I gave you should have solved the problem. Sorry. But I guess you were able to read it since you gave me some good info! I don't think I've had anyone put the slant on it that you did, but I think you were very accurate. It's interesting that you said you would recommend acting or music. I have always had a desire for that, especially music, but have always felt "blocked", in that I couldn't get very far with developing it. I've always been more of a an "egghead", "brainiac" kind of person, even though I hate it most of the time. I really want to be creative. What aspects, etc, caused to make this recommendation?

Your physical description of me is pretty accurate, too. I'd never heard anyone say that about my Aquarius Moon.

One of the benefits of the Mercury retrograde in the 12th/Sag is that I remember many of my past lives - mostly through dreams, but sometimes I have the experience of this world dissolving and I'm standing for a few seconds in the other - not watching it, but actually being it. This happens while I'm wide awake. It's very disorienting. Luckily, it doesn't happen very often.

The information you gave about my past lives is accurate, although I'm not sure it was my very most recent one. I believe my very most recent one, I was a young Jewish girl who died in the holocaust. The one prior to that was in the late 1800's/early 1900's in Western America, although I did travel to Holland, and was quite well-to-do. And you are right in that my youngest daughter is a person I have past life connections with. She was my younger sister, whom I was very attached to, in that life. She died young of an illness, I think maybe dysentery, or something like that. She may very well have been in the most recent, as well. I think I share many past lives with her, as I have felt a very strong bond with her. (She is a musician - plays guitar and sings lead. She would probably know those bands you named!;))

As to my current friends, I know at least one of them shared the holocaust lifetime with me. There was another lifetime, many centuries ago that seems to be one of the most important, karma-wise, in this life. I lived in Europe, and was successful in a sense. Many of the people I know now were in that lifetime. I died a sudden, horrific death in that one. ( Actually more than one...) I've often wondered if that Pluto/Uranus conjunction in Virgo in the 8th could also stand for a strong overshadowing of a past life. That death has haunted me this whole life. I even remember having dreams about it as a child.

I do carry alot of nervous energy, jittery, tense all the time - and that is probably the most self-destructive thing about me.

And I do have two children. You are between the two of them in age.

I am very interested how you learned to see all of this in a chart - the past lives, the number of children, and which child I had past life ties with. Is there a book you can recommend? I would like to study a little on this in the near future, when I get some more ducks in a row.

Thanks so much for taking the time to look over my chart!!!!
 
Looking at your chart, the first thing I would point out is the exact conjuct of Pluto to the MC with Mercury coming in close. Mars in the 8th is also important. You mentioned that being a mortician was okay... it is actually a perfect fit. But, there is more... I was not surprised to see that you are currently working with fashion. Venus/Libra influences are very strong in your chart. If these are combined, it does point to the "gothe" type appreciation. I am not sure your personal ambitions, but what I do see is that you would be great as a reconstructive surgeon. In the mortuary business, they do have people that do reconstruction and at minimal, do the hair and make up of a corpse.

What ever it is that you decide, remember, this is a first step. Saturn being the ruler of the 1st house, showing in the later part of the 11th... your true vocation will be earned later, it is not something you can jump right into at the beginning. With Chiron, your personal healer in the 6th, shows your healing in comforting others. With Jupiter in the 3rd trine Uranus in the 12th, adding the somberness on the Capricorn rising, you are comfortable and respectful to others in times of crisis. My money is mortician, and with Saturn's slow but progressing wisdom, eventually owning your own Mortuary.

Naturally all of the same applies to working in the Occult field. And with all the 9th house energy, it may actually be better suited.

TK
 
freedom!
im glad that most of my interpretation is correct.
as i said i had some problems with my pc n couldnt see ur chart so i did not know about your age.
if i did i would not talk all this mumbo-jumbo about goths-this r themes for immature pipl(teenagers).
but if u hear somewhere that word-goth is mostly a pale person,all dressed in black,mostly a pessimistic one who offten talks about graves,crows,vampires u know things like that


ok moving on.
how did i realized that u have 2 kids?
well-the mistake is if someone looks as a ruler of the hause only the 1.st sign ,with wich the hause starts.
your eg. u have 5th in taurus n geminni-now u must find the ruler of taurus(venus) and of geminni(mercury) cause they both count.
so 2 kids -2 signs in 5th.
ofcourse thats not always the case,use your female intuition a bit;) .
from what i had saw you have that enough.
geminni is your secon sign(secon child) n mercury is in 12th-2nd child from the past.
gem/mercury r presented through moving ,so its possible that she was deported or was runnin in the past life(as u said maybe a holocaust victim).
the first child is presented as taurus n venus in first-strong conection in this life.
probably very nice looking,maybe darker skin ,hair or eyes.

there r not any books of karmic astrology ,most of us "mortal people" must figure out this for ourselfs.

well if u have aries in 12th u were possibly in a fight or a batlle,scorpio -tiranin or an occultist,taurus-u were conservative,materialistic,or maybe u were n artis as well,...
its very important to find the ruler/rulers of 12th-they will show u a bigger picture.

pluto,neptune,saturne in this hause often an magician,law troubles,...
venus-person with venus in 12th is living to find her love from past life in this one.
unles if venus is in negative aspect with pluto,mars or saturne-then the persone was maybe raped or killed.
in the karmic section i puted an interesting chart of wicca who was killed for being the same thing in her previous life.
she has 6 signs in scorpio plus asc!
very strange.
 
wintersprite tnx for checkin my chart.
most of this stuff no1 mentioned to me before.
but i dont know how do goths n libras can be mentioned in the same sentece.
they r more pluto types.
libra is taken most of my 9th hause(colledge) so i ended in fashion design-its not that bad,but i was more for scandinavian languages.
i dont considere myself as tipical libra-not many ones wpuld disagree-they think that im :piesces(neptune conj. asc),sagg(4 planets in 9th-yes hauses do have thir part on physical appereance) or scorpio(i like this one:eek: )
 
pale as death said:
but i dont know how do goths n libras can be mentioned in the same sentece.

LOL, on the surface that would be true. Libra's ruling planet Venus is more what I was refering to... Music, Arts, Fashion, Trends.... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... There is Goth music, Goth Art, Goth makeup and jewelry... Even though the appearance is Plutonian, they are stil represented by Venus.:)

TK
 
well yeah:eek:
i understood what u r refearing to,but i just mentioned (just in case)...
yes u can say that they r some strange venus -pluto combination
 
I agree with most of the comments here, I also see perhaps connection with major publishing houses, travel and foreign matters. You would make a great healer especially in use of your hands. Use of high tech equipment to accomplish this. You could write at some time and I feel that you will benefit from seclusion, quiet time and retreat. You may become involved with a religious organisation of some sort. I would be careful of anyone purporting to a guru especially male and they may try to charm or seduce you into becoming a member of their particular cult. Being in touch with the general public such as a tour guide or promotions is another avenue. Higher education and travelling is where you find your happiness and developing your own philosophy and universal truth. You have four houses inthe 9th house and these matters will hold a major focus in your life. THis is not a stellium as not all planets are in aspect there but still important. You could import objects of beauty and luxury or promote and sell these things.

Hope that something strikes a chord with you.

Cheers
Claire
 
hm,hm
well when i was 8 i healed my friends with bioenergy,n no one ever showed me how to do it,it just came out of my head(past life thing,i believe).
im too mature to join some cults:cool: .
im not that interested in medical professions.
yeah,i think i will write some book,some day,...
also tnx for suggestions
**** my grammar:mad: !
 
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ste vi stupidni!
kaj ne pišete?
to je zato što sam balkanka,a?
znam ja.
nismo ni mi glupi.
svi ste vi fancy ,a mi smo kao sranje-jebite se.
šta sam glupa-tu kenjkam po vašem čatu i trudim se s gramatikom ,a vi niš!
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