Mars in Pisces

[waybread]

The bolded part above is very revealing. It seems that Mars in Pisces is leaking through. It is the squishiness I was referring to earlier...[ " Gee, I can't recall if you are a Scorpio or not, but IF you are then maybe this is all projection...If the shoes fit, and all that ..." totally Pisces...] LOL

That is a perfect illustration of passive/aggressive Piscean energy at work, in my humble Scorpionic opinion..

Well, I'm beginning to see the problem. What I wrote noted, in all fairness, that some signs seem to demand more of other people than the others are prepared to give. If you see someone putting up a privacy barricade or trying to get you to see things from an alternative perspective as "squishy," well, good luck understanding human beings with this opinion.

Once more, put differently:

An emotionally intense Cancer or a praise-loving Leo finds sun-Aquarians aloof. But on planet Aquarius, the water-pourer is the normal one, and it is the Cancer or Leo who are emotionally draining.

A triple Aries gal is criticized for being insufficiently feminine and deferential; but in her planet Aries, she's the normal one-- not the girly Venusians.

Incidentally, are you, in fact, a sun Scorpio? You didn't say so directly when I put it to you, and I wouldn't wish to accuse you of being "squishy" in side-stepping the matter. I thought your "Scorpionic opinion" phrase seemed tongue-in-cheek, not a direct "yes" or "no".

 

[waybread]

Actually I did know a Mars in Pisces (Cancer Sun that was trine Pluto) who was a TERRIBLE liar. Like, pathological.) and two other Cancer / Pisces people who were the same way. Each mutable has their own way of disguise / deception though. I used to lie all the time and I have Gem ASC, Mars in Gem.

So your basis for comparison with Pisces would be.....?

Note that Gemini is ruled by Mercury.

Maybe we also want to consider Neptune.

But look, even with your OP's qualifying disclaimer, you seemed to have a view that your BF lies and that his Pisces Mars explains it.

Mutable signs are not inherently dishonest. No sign is. The key word for mutable signs is "adaptable." If they disagree with your opinion they're less likely to shout back at you than they are to view their relationship with you as requiring some modification in order to get along.

For some sleaze-ball guy with Mars in Pisces who goes out and removes his wedding ring.... in my opinion, sometimes people with Mars, Venus and Jupiter in a 3-way aspect incline towards polyamory.

I once interacted with a woman with a Mars-Venus-Jupiter aspect and suggested she might be polyamorous. She about bit my head off for this suggestion, but stayed in the discussion. It then turned out that she was monogamous but her husband fooled around. The chart will express itself in some fashion: what we suppress we tend to attract in other people.

Lovely Miss Aries, is it possible that because you have a past history of fudging the truth, you automatically assume other people do this, as well? Why do you suspect your BF? Of what?

 

[anjelik]

Lovely Miss Aries, is it possible that because you have a past history of fudging the truth, you automatically assume other people do this, as well? Why do you suspect your BF? Of what?

I used to think this way - I mean, it does make some sense, but I don't think you can necessarily say that since she behaved a certain way she projects that behaviour onto others. Though, in certain instances this is probably true.

I say this because I am suspicious of everyone's motives and investigate everything and I don't think this is because I do shady things or I am into things I shouldn't be. I think this is because my interest lies in things like crime shows or anything with scandal, etc. As an example, watching House of Cards with my husband and he says, "THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!" in respect to all the scandal, cheating, lying. My response to him was like, "THIS HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE ALL THE TIME." But that is my perspective and not his and not because I do these things, because for whatever reason I do believe that people are capable of anything and he doesn't think that way. So going back to LMA - perhaps she feels that people are capable of lying and deceiving because she has seen it with her own eyes, been on the receiving end or in your theory - because she herself has been deceptive and knows what people are capable of. I do see your point though. There has to be a reason why she would feel like someone is being deceptive.

I do want to say though, everyone lies. And anyone who says they do not lie, is in fact a LIAR.

 

[LovelyMissAries]

All my questions answered!

Birth time is verified!

 

[fireandwater]

Looks like you got a ton of feedback on this post but I just had to respond because I just signed up today, saw the thread and the chart above, and realized that I have the exact same birthday! Though I am a Leo rising and our Venus is off by 1 degree and the Moon by 5.

Knowing the house placement makes a tremendous difference! I have Mars and Jupiter in Pisces in the 8th, which I'm still figuring out... secrecy in some capacity? But I am a terrible liar! Been working on my tact though I do think having Mars and Jupiter in the 1st, and Pisces rising is significant, maybe said person is more comfortable putting on a mask. But that stellium in Sagittarius - Sun especially! - and the Moon in Aries just screams forthrightness (at least anyone I know will say that about me!). Moon in the 1st too - interesting!

It's worth noting the extreme fire/water in our charts (hence my screen name) - I believe the high concentration of the two extremes does cause drama. But this chart is different from mine in that a lot of the planets occupy air and earth houses - probably a lot more balanced elementally.

 

[LovelyMissAries]

Thank you! Yes, he is pretty honest. I'm seeing what people are talking about Pisces "mirroring" though and how it can be misconstrued as deception. Though it depends in what context that is happening, overall I don't sense it's done maliciously or that even what they're mirroring is untrue for them.

Pisces on the first would also muddle someone's energy in general even if they are a normally frank person, I think. It would soften the edges a bit, slow the energy down so perhaps that frankness wouldn't come through as loud and clear.

Thanks for popping in fireandwater!