Asc. + Mercury - Neptune ?

[piercethevale]

Part of Gossip and the Part of Intrusion, are the only two titles, I know of, given to the formula, Asc. + Mercury - Neptune.

As I found how that Neptune triggers another in a few other Parts in which Neptune is the "Trigger", that it can put a radical spin on the symbolic imagery just as it is here in which Mercury is the "Significator" As Astrological Parts need to be understood that they are a composite of your awareness, the "Personal Point", for most natal Parts it's the Ascendant, then added to what is significant in this respect, which is usually a Planet. as here it is Mercury, the Planet of the intellect and communication, and Neptune, full of flights of fancy imagery, triggering that composite of awareness and what was significant to the awareness at that moment.
07* Pisces 23' 21" [From Dane Rudhyar's book "An Astrological Mandala"]

"PISCES 8°): A GIRL BLOWING A BUGLE.
KEYNOTE: A call to participation in the service of the race, as an evolutionary crisis approaches.

This symbolic picture presents another aspect of the emotional relationship between the individual and the collectivity of human beings. It can also be related to the old feminist movement or the present women's liberation. In traditional symbolism the woman refers more specifically to the biological and psychic aspect of human life; she is seen primarily as the mother, and/or the intuitive or "psychic" type of person. A new race of human beings may well be slowly unfolding some of its potential of consciousness and fulfillment. The individual who envisions this evolutionary development "sounds the call." He or she is both seer-herald and mutant. In that sense such a human being is both an individual true to his original nature and a dedicated person — dedicated to the future he or she holds in latency as does a seed in mutation.

At this third stage of the sixty-eighth five-fold sequence the two preceding phases blend in a new form of consecration of the individual to the Whole. Tomorrow acts through today; it SUMMONS men to rebirth."

Wow... those last four words of Rudhyar's.... whew...!
...as for being symbolic of a Part of Gossip?
...I don't know, but there's this rumor going around... ya' know?

I'll be back with what the opposite formula produces and its Sabian Symbolism.

 

[piercethevale]

Having now given this a bit of "thought time", it seems to be an inevitable conclusion tht when dealing with a being as so spiritually evolved as Yeshu'a was that all Planetary processes are then under the command of "The Will"... and Yeshu'a' having that Pluto conj. Asc. that signifies one born with the overdrive gear for "Will Power", so conjunct that ascendant that it is like both an overdrive gear with turbo, or a supercharger,.
Where-as Neptune being the "Trigger" to the Asc. + Mercury, maybe it's as like the Imagery Division of the Planetary Dept. of Neptune being compelled to produce an image by the same Planetary Dept. that is known as the Higher Holding Corp [Higher Octave] of Venus, the Planet of Love & Beauty.
Maybe it's symbolic of what the Nazarene would so dearly have loved to have conveyed... and perhaps He did, but the witnesses were silenced... testimonies were changed to insinuate, and incriminate, the innocent...
[ibid.]

"KEYNOTE: A call to participation in the service of the race, as an evolutionary crisis approaches."


...could that have been the "Big Message"?

...by the way, how's the evolutionary process going over in your neck of the woods, nowadays?

...we've got a bottleneck going on over here.....

 

[piercethevale]

Greetings again. Are you ready for the formula opposite of the above? That is to say the Astrological Part derived from Asc. + Neptune - Mercury?, Taken from that same natal chart I am convince of and so do contend is the actual natal chart of Yeshu'a/Jesus of Nazareth, it amounts to 24* Aries 03' 13", The 25th degree of Aries.
At present, from what all I have been able to glean from the research I've done on Astrological Parts. the above formula produces two different titles for the Part. The Part of Divination and the Part of Fraud.
I suppose with what planets are involved "fraud" could come into play but I like the title of "Divination", it seems reasonable, very...
[ibid.]
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"ARIES 25°: THE POSSIBILITY FOR MAN TO GAIN EXPERIENCE AT TWO LEVELS OF BEING.

KEYNOTE: The revelation of new potentialities.

In some unspecified way the symbol is a guarantee that man can operate successfully at two levels of consciousness, if he has previously met the condition mentioned in the preceding symbol. 'Be open. Be able and willing to shape your translucent mind in the form revealing spiritual fulfillment. And you will be able to experience life and power on inner as well as outer planes.' The implied message is one of faith. Man can only truly experience what he deeply believes he can experience.

This is the last stage of this fifth five-fold sequence of cyclic phases. It announces the possibility of a new step in evolution, but it is still only a possibility, a promise. The individual is truly ON PROBATION. "

ISN'T THIS WHAT HE DIVINED FOR EACH OF US...!?!?

 

[piercethevale]

The part found, from the former formula, Asc. + Mercury - Neptune think might be better titled as a "Part of Prediction", in that it is more of how some rumors originate, which in turn become gossip, but on a higher level, perhaps, it is a result of conjecture and the imagery that produces?
At least, that's how I conclude this would be relative to the man known as the Prince of Peace.

 

[piercethevale]

After reviewing this thread tonight I have come to think that the formula for Asc. + Neptune - Mercury is more as to a Part of Deduction, that is logical deduction. After applying ones intelligence to a question at hand the imagery produced is that which is logically deduced. Where as the opposite formula is on of "prediction", or 'prophecy", if one prefers that term.
This is not meant to confer that one process is trustworthy and the other isn't, that would depend on the individual in question and what is predicted. ...but the one would be more trustworthy than the other.

Yet at present, it does seem to be a more sure thing that an evolutionary crisis is going to occur before we reach two levels of existence.

...hmmm...?