Is Eris an astrological planet?

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In the past we relied on the astronomers to create consensus among modern astrologers as to what broadly counted as a planet. Without that, it's very hard to get anyone to agree on anything. We can't quite trust the scientists on this one, obviously, but we don't really agree among each other either. The traditional astrologers don't consider anything past Saturn to be a planet, being even more extreme than the scientists. Some modern astrologers regard almost any object in space as worth including in a chart for analysis, if they are extremely open-minded. But the average modern astrologer is stuck with roughly the old 9 planet model from the last point where the consensus broke down, and no trustworthy guidance as to where we go from here.

So, I guess what I would like to do is start trying to make sense of Eris for myself, since there really isn't an authority figure out there that's going to come in and do it for me in a way that's going to be broadly accepted by consensus.

Eris in Aries:

Eris last entered Aries in March of 1395, and left Aries in March of 1521. This would very roughly correspond to the 15th Century, about 6 years before and 20 years after. It spent about 126 years in Aries.

Notable events:

1399 - Henry IV takes the throne in England after deposing Richard II, becoming the first English king since the Norman Conquest to speak English as his first language rather than French.

1421 - Joan of Arc inspires the French and turns the tide of the Hundred Years' War in favor of the French during the Siege of Orleans, eventually resulting in a French victory and the English being driven out of France aside from Calais.

1440 - Gutenberg invents the printing press.

1453 - Hundred Years' War officially ends, and Constantinople falls to the Ottomans, more or less ending the Byzantine Empire.

1455 - Wars of the Roses break out in England between the House of Tudor and the House of Lancaster, shortly after the end of the Hundred Years' War.

1478 - Spanish Inquisition is established.

1492 - The Reconquista in Spain is completed with the fall of Grenada, Colombus puts the Americas on the map and begins the Age of Discovery.

1504 - Michaelangelo finishes his famous nude sculpture of David.

1506 - Leonardo da Vinci completes the Mona Lisa, Christopher Colombus dies.

1512 - Michaelangelo finishes painting the Sistine Chapel's ceiling, Copernicus first writes about the Sun being the center of the universe, though the work is still immature and isn't widely distributed.

1513 - Machiavelli writes "The Prince," and lays the groundwork for the philosophy of Realpolitik to take shape.

1517 - Martin Luther posts his famous Ninety-Five theses, laying the groundwork for the Protestant Reformation.

1519 - Hernan Cortez begins the Spanish Conquest of the Aztec Empire, Magellan plans the first successful circumnavigation of the Earth (dying at sea not long after Eris left Aries).

To sum it up, this was the twilight of medieval Europe, the one that separated and defined French and English identity once and for all, ended the Byzantine Empire, started the Renaissance, finished the Spanish Reconquista, discovered the New World, and put forward the Heliocentric theory that unfortunately started the rift between astrology and astronomy. Everything about this era shows how quickly, relatively speaking, the medieval period gave way to the early modern period of history that's recognizable as the beginning of modern Europe.

Eris in Taurus:

Notable events:

Eris entered Taurus in March of 1521, and left Taurus in March of 1605. This roughly corresponds to the 16th century, minus the first 20 years, and with about 4 years of the 17th century. It spent about 84 years in Taurus.

1527 - Italian Renaissance ends with the Sack of Rome and the Pope escaping, Protestant Reformation begins in Sweden.

1529 - Treaty of Zaragoza divides all the undiscovered territory in the world between the Spanish and the Portuguese, sight unseen.

1532 - Church of England breaks away from the Catholic Church, seizes church lands and wealth.

1537 - William Tyndale publishes the first partial translation of the Bible into English.

1543 - Copernicus finally publishes his Heliocentric theory in mature form, Nanban trade period begins with Portuguese arrival in Japan.

1553 - Bloody Mary ascends to the throne of England and attempts to reverse the English Reformation, kills many religious dissenters.

1558 - Elizabeth I takes the throne, starting the Elizabethan era in England, and England loses Calais to France.

1562 - Religious wars in France start between Catholics and Huguenots.

1570 - Pope Pius excommunicates Elizabeth I and all her followers, calling on all Catholics to rebel against her.

1580 - Sir Francis Drake circumnavigates the world for the second time.

1582 - Gregorian Calendar is created by Pope Gregory XIII.

1585 - Sir Walter Raleigh attempts to establish the doomed Roanoke colony as the first permanent English settlement in America, but it fails and no one really knows what happened there to this day.

1597 - Romeo and Juliet is written by William Shakespeare and published.

1600 - Elizabeth I grants a charter to the British East India Company.

1602 - The Dutch East India Company is established.

1603 - Elizabeth I dies, ending the Elizabethan era. James VI ascends to the throne, uniting the crowns of England and Scotland.

1604 - Anglo-Spanish War comes to an end, after each country repels the other's armada.

So in summary, this period has a lot of religious wars between Catholics and Protestants, the height of the English Rennaissance under Elizabeth I, the creation of the Gregorian Calendar, and the establishment of both the British and Dutch East India Company. People mostly figure out how to profit off the trends of the previous era, how to make profit off the improvement in ships, the discovery of the New World, etc. Things that were dangerous and unproven "firsts" not long ago become much safer to do and are repeated.

I don't have room to discuss all the signs in one post, but I am kind of seeing a pattern here that makes sense. The awkward thing is, you have to have a really, really zoomed out view of history to see anything here. I can kind of see it because I studied European History, but I feel like anyone who didn't take AP European History in High School probably wouldn't be able to make sense of Eris at all. If the normal outer planets are generational, then Eris mostly represents entire eras of history (in fact the word Eris kind of sounds like eras), at basically the level historians tend to view them in hindsight after they're over. But no one living through the era would ever see the pattern. I did vaguely notice in class that the 1400s seemed somehow Aries-themed, and the 1500s seemed somehow Taurus-themed, but I couldn't really pinpoint why... and I feel like Eris could be the answer?

If Mars is about specific battles and wars, Eris would be about the reasons why people fight wars and maybe even the nature of the discoveries made in a given era. Like, each one of those wars probably had its own specific Mars-related reasons for occurring, but there was kind of an Eris theme that represented the broader, civilization-wide tensions leading to various innovations and wars in a given era.
 
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I think Eris does have astrological meaning, although admittedly there is some disagreement about what that is.

I see Eris as the Woman Warrior. Mythologically she was the sister of Mars (Ares) who delighted in warfare and bloodshed. But not so bad if she were on your side in battle. A modern prototype would be Xena, the Warrior Princess, interestingly played by actor Lucy Lawless.

 
I think the biggest issue with Eris getting defined is simply that there isn't enough American history yet to even get an idea of what an Eris cycle would look like. Eris has never been seen in any sign except Aries, the sign it was discovered in. That said, it does spend a long time in Aries in particular, which really suggests to me that Eris likely has a very Aries quality to it... the last time Eris was in Aries (before now), we got Joan of Arc hearing the voices of Saints telling her to lead France to victory.

Anyway, continuing on with the theme...

Eris in Gemini:

Eris last entered Gemini in March of 1605, and left Gemini in July of 1640 (though retrogrades might have had it going in and out). This is a shockingly short period of time, relatively speaking, compared to Eris in Aries or Taurus. A period of only 35 years spent in Gemini, doesn't even finish the 17th century, but it's a very interesting time period because it's the beginning of anything that could remotely be labeled as US history.

Notable events:

1607 - Founding of Jamestown, the first successful permanent English colony in the Americas.

1611 - First publication of King James Bible.

1618 - Defenestration of Prague, leads to Thirty Years' War which lasts throughout the rest of this period and beyond.

1620 - The Mayflower sets sail from Plymouth, England.

1633 - Japan closes itself to foreigners, and Galileo Galilei is tried by the Inquisition, for promoting that darn Heliocentric theory that discredited Christianity and astrology alike in the eyes of many.

1636 - Harvard University is founded in Massachusetts.

1639 - Wars of the Three Kingdoms begin with the Bishop's Wars.

So, in summary, here's how I see this period having a Gemini theme. When Eris was in Aries, the printing press was invented. When it was in Taurus, we got Tyndale's partial translation of the Bible. Finally, in Gemini, we get the King James Bible, the finished product that spreads the word and creates controversy to this day. Same with Heliocentric theory. Copernicus wrote a preliminary work that wasn't widely distributed when Eris was in Aries, published it in mature form when Eris was in Taurus, and finally Galileo created a lot of drama by actively evangelizing for the theory when it moved into Gemini. So while it may be associated with war, it also seems like it could be connected with new ideas that create strife and can thus lead to war over time... sort of like a Uranus/Mars combo in a way. When Eris was in Aries, Spain founded the first American colonies, when it was in Taurus, Spain was dividing the world with Portugal, and England was trying and failing to establish a colony in Roanoke. Finally, in Gemini, England pulls off an American colony with Jamestown, starts another one at Plymouth Rock, and even creates Harvard University all while Eris is in Gemini. I feel like I can see this slow-moving pioneer spirit along with the warlike attributes of Eris, which would indeed be very Aries if that's the case. And yes, Martin Luther and his Ninety-Five Theses in particular really feel a lot like Eris throwing that apple somehow, looking back, given how much Protestant/Catholic conflict occurred as a result when Eris entered Taurus. And right before Eris changes sign... Wars of the Three Kingdoms begin. Seems so appropriate for Eris, too.

Eris in Cancer:

Eris entered Cancer in July of 1640, and left in June of 1661, staying in that sign for just over 20 years... Eris really does not like Cancer... we're changing signs a lot in the 17th century, aren't we?

Notable Events:

1642 - English Civil War breaks out, ends with the execution of King Charles I.

1648 - Thirty Years' War ends with the Peace of Westphalia, leading to the concept of Westphalian sovereignty in international law.

1653 - Cromwellian reconquest of Ireland takes place, bringing Ireland back under English control.

1660 - Commonwealth of England ends, monarchy is brought back under Charles II, and the Royal Society is founded to promote science.

So overall, this is a very short list, but Eris in Cancer corresponds almost perfectly with the time Oliver Cromwell ruled over England, and the recognition of the concept of Westphalian sovereignty which pushed for states not to intervene in each other's affairs, giving them a kind of "shell." Prior to this, Europe still operated under the notion of the Pope having spiritual authority and the emperor having temporal authority, and there was no real respect for the concept of states as independent things with a right to self-determination at all. I have to wonder... does the US sun sign being in Cancer suggest that American independence and its ideals come from this period of English history, the arguments and justifications used during this time?

Eris in Leo:

Eris entered Leo in June of 1661, and left in August of 1676, staying in Leo for just 15 years. Well, I guess that makes Eris hard to interpret... it isn't consistent at all with how long it stays in signs. What can you say about a planet that spends a century in one sign, but can go through others in 15 years?! There's just no way to find a consistent mechanism of action here, everything about how it works is so chaotic.

Notable Events:

1665 - Robert Hooke discovers cells using a microscope.

1666 - The Great Fire of London broke out during this time.

1667 - War of Devolution takes place in the Netherlands, one of the first wars by Louis XIV (the Sun King) to expand French territory within Europe.

1672 - The Third Anglo-Dutch war breaks out, along with the Franco-Dutch war.

Hmm... so this period is hard to say much about. Discovering cells with a microscope does seem to suggest that life and vitality are "seen" and observed in a new way for the first time. And from what I hear, the Great Fire of London already has so much fire in the chart that Eris was just piling on being in Leo at the time. But the most notable thing is that the Netherlands is involved in multiple wars during this time, and that the Sun King was put on the map during this time, which seems appropriate given that Leo rules the sun.

Eris in Virgo:

Eris entered Virgo in August of 1676, and left in July of 1693, spending just 17 years in Virgo. At least the number seems to be going up again instead of down?

Notable Events:

1680 - The Pueblo Revolt drives the Spanish out of New Mexico until 1692.

1682 - French explorer Robert La Salle claims all land east of the Mississippi River.

1683 - The Great Turkish War halts the expansion of the Ottoman Empire into Europe.

1685 - James II takes the throne, becoming the final Catholic monarch to rule over England.

1687 - Isaac Newton publishes the Principia, explaining the law of gravity for the first time.

1688 - Glorious Revolution occurs, William & Mary become Protestant rulers of England, James II is deposed.

1689 - English Bill of Rights receives Royal Assent, becomes a model for the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution much later. During the same year, John Locke publishes Two Treatises on Government and A Letter Concerning Toleration, major cornerstones of liberalism as a concept.

1693 - In February, the College of William & Mary is founded in Williamsburg, Virginia.

Overall, the theme of Eris in Virgo seems to be that of recent precedent being restored through violent conflict, and then reinforced somehow. England was never going to accept a Catholic monarch at this point in history, though it is interesting that instead of a Commonwealth, they dealt with the issue by swapping out their monarch rather than try what Cromwell did again, sticking with established precedent and minimizing disruption to the operation of government. There's definitely a bit of an intellectual theme here. Issac Newton discovered gravity, John Locke basically described how government should work to avoid the stress of deciding how to replace an unpopular monarch, and another American college was founded. Might be a coincidence, but Harvard, the oldest private University, was built when Eris was in Gemini, and now the oldest public university, William & Mary, was built when Eris was in Virgo... both happened under Mercury-ruled Eris signs? It also makes me think of the old rumor that Washington DC was built under Virgo influences, and that this had something to do with the architecture. And quite possibly, Virgo influences in Eris here, at this point in English history, were the very starting point of the ideas they wanted upheld in government when they said they wanted Virgo influences on government...

I could be floundering in the dark looking for influences here, using this method rather than looking at Eris influence within individual charts, but since I've already started trying, I might as well keep going.
 
Athenian, I think another question mark is the synergistic effect among planets. A chart for each of those events might reveal other important transits afoot.

I'm aware of two books on Eris: Henry Seltzer, The Tenth Planet; and Keiron Le Grice, Discovering Eris. I don't know if you'd find either of them helpful. LeGrice appears to be an evolutionary astrologer, and Seltzer has some interesting material on how fiction authors work through Eris in their writings.

I tend to see Eris at work in the remarkable recent rise of women's sports, notably at the Olympics, World Cup soccer, and women's basketball in the US. I am of an older generation that did seem to teach that Mars the Athlete was for boys and Venus the pretty girlfriend was for girls. So it does my heart good to see these strong women attracting massive crowds of both male and female spectators.

Is there another planetary explanation for the rise of female sports?
 
What's interesting is that the Eris discovery chart you posted, actually reminds me a little of two of the proposed charts for Joan of Arc. The main one that's accepted gives her an Aries MC and a Capricorn Sun. Her MC is in fact pretty close to Eris, and since the birth time is only an estimate, it might even be conjunct. With the rectified chart by De Jabrun, it appears Eris is actually conjunct her MC, but I'm half-wondering if that was intentional, because I have no idea if he did that rectification before the discovery of Eris or took it into account when making that the degree of her MC...

So while I don't have time just yet to delve into individual event charts for all of this stuff, I can basically confirm my intuition that Eris would have had to be near a critical angle in Joan of Arc's birth chart for her to be able to become a military leader of any kind at this point in history. It's just that I'm tempted to think it also has a broader meaning than just female warriors, despite being strongly associated with that. Like for instance, I think it certainly has to mean something in charts that have nothing to do with female athletes and warriors, and I am wondering what that could be.
 
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So, I couldn't find a good event chart for the posting of the Ninety-Five Theses, but I did find Martin Luther's birth chart... apparently it has a Rodden Rating of AA.

He does in fact have Eris in his 9th house, right between his moon and North Node. That does seem prominently placed enough to confirm the "apple-throwing" theory, at least in my book. If anyone single-handedly created lasting discord the way Eris did by throwing that apple and getting three goddesses to fight over it... well, it would have to be him.
 
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