Planetary temperament in the geocentric model

[Dima Gur]

Hi everyone.

I’m having difficulties understanding the Ptolemaic / geocentric model, in terms of temperament.
From what I understand the earth is the source of moisture, which explains why the moon is a wet planet.
The Sun is a source of heat, which is why Mars (which is near the Sun) is a hot and dry planet.
Saturn is the last planet in the geocentric model. Thus it is cold and dry (dead, barren or devoid of life).
As Jupiter is a planet which is between hot Mars and cold Saturn it becomes balanced and benefic, although this doesn’t account for it being wet. Jupiter is a long distance away from earth, and closer to the Sun, so this seems odd.
Mercury is considered dry, despite being closer to the Earth than Venus, which is also odd. Again, the earth as a source of moisture, so how come mercury is dry?
Venus is closer to hot and drying Sun, more so than Mercury. However, she is still considered to be cold and wet. How can this be accounted for?

Any insights to the logic behind the model would be appreciated.

 

[JUPITERASC]

Hi everyone. I’m having difficulties understanding the Ptolemaic / geocentric model, in terms of temperament. From what I understand the earth is the source of moisture, which explains why the moon is a wet planet. The Sun is a source of heat, which is why Mars (which is near the Sun) is a hot and dry planet. Saturn is the last planet in the geocentric model. Thus it is cold and dry (dead, barren or devoid of life). As Jupiter is a planet which is between hot Mars and cold Saturn it becomes balanced and benefic, although this doesn’t account for it being wet. Jupiter is a long distance away from earth, and closer to the Sun, so this seems odd. Mercury is considered dry, despite being closer to the Earth than Venus, which is also odd. Again, the earth as a source of moisture, so how come mercury is dry? Venus is closer to hot and drying Sun, more so than Mercury. However, she is still considered to be cold and wet. How can this be accounted for?

Any insights to the logic behind the model would be appreciated.

Astrology has not changed. There are simply lots of people doing it wrong
in part because they listen to Ptolemy
BUT Ptolemy was not an astrologer
& never cast a chart even once in his life
& who would bleep his pants if he had to actually cast a chart & read it.

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[astropsychicdevanand]

In the geocentric model, planetary temperament refers to the way planets express their influences on Earth, based on their positions in the sky relative to the observer. This model, where Earth is considered the center of the universe, categorizes planets as having different temperaments depending on their proximity to the Earth. For example, benefic planets (like Venus and Jupiter) are associated with positive traits such as harmony and growth, while malefic planets (like Mars and Saturn) are linked to challenging traits, such as conflict or restriction. The temperament reflects how the planet's energy is perceived to affect individuals based on astrological positions.