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The Bayesian, which capsized
in the early hours of Monday
was an award-winning yacht
owned by a company
controlled by the wife of tech tycoon Mike Lynch.


a superyacht sank off Sicily

After A Violent Storm ​

ElenaJ said:
At 4:04 am of August 19th a sudden sea tornado formed just off the coast of Sicily, near Palermo. The Bayesian was anchored just outside the harbor of Porticello when it hit, and the strong winds broke the mast, causing the yacht to capsize.
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Blister said:
What is traditional ruler of natural disaster? mars or saturn?
It was a tornadic water spout - so that might be jupiter in bad aspect to the vessels departure? i'll have to see if there is an event chart of the time it it left port. The perfect storm. Mercury.
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EVENT CHART PORTICELLO

ASCENDANT RULER MOON HOUSE 8 is OPPOSING
SUN MERCURY RETROGRADE ASSEMBLY HOUSE 2
MERCURY RULES HOUSES 12 & 3
MARS JUPITER ASSEMBLY HOUSE 12
horoscope-chart5-700__radix_19-8-2024_04-04.png

local authorities have confirmed the identities of
the six passengers that remain missing
including tech mogul Mike Lynch & his daughter Hannah.
While the six passengers are still missing - HOUSE 12 - HIDDEN
the body of the ship’s cook, identified by Antiguan News Room
as Antiguan citizen Ricardo Thomas
was previously retrieved from the water.


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the video was helpful to me -
so, the recovery divers didn't find bodies in the water, which indicates they were trapped and unable to get out of the cabins or very drunk and in a hard sleep?
what would we look to in the moon of the sinking that tells/suspects passengers were trapped in the cabin?
Obvious to me is the 12th house of 'confinement' and there is Mars and Jupiter in the 12th
AND Moon trining from the 8th.

Wow. I'm imagining that some if not all who are trapped were in a deep sleep until they breathed in water and perished. Unroused is my thought. During a sudden violent storm. Other thought is the peril of trying to escape a fully enclosed prison with no exit points available.
 
Blister said:
the video was helpful to me -
so, the recovery divers didn't find bodies in the water, which indicates they were trapped and unable to get out of the cabins or very drunk and in a hard sleep?
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not necessarily :)

because
the boat sank quickly.

MOON is FAST
MERCURY is FAST

The people missing
"..may not have had time to get out of the boat..."

Blister said:
what would we look to in the moon of the sinking that tells/suspects passengers were trapped in the cabin?
Obvious to me is the 12th house of 'confinement' and there is Mars and Jupiter in the 12th
AND Moon trining from the 8th.
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Blister said:
Wow. I'm imagining that some if not all who are trapped were in a deep sleep until they breathed in water and perished. Unroused is my thought. During a sudden violent storm. Other thought is the peril of trying to escape a fully enclosed prison with no exit points available.
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A new CCTV clip - MERCURY - INFORMATION
taken from a villa only 200m away
has emerged, and shows the £14million vessel disappearing
off the coast of Porticello, Sicily
as it is engulfed by the heavy rain.
Lights from the yacht can also be seen in the distance
before tragedy strikes.

One witness told how he went to check his cameras
after hearing the news of the sinking
according to Giornale Di Sicilia.
The owner of the villa said:
"..In just sixty seconds, you can see the ship disappear. :)

THAT'S VERY FAST FOR A SUPPOSEDLY UNSINKABLE VESSEL

Of about twenty cameras installed in the house
only one was not disturbed by the wind and rain.
You can clearly see what is happening.
There was nothing that could be done for the boat.
It disappeared in a very short time.."

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JUPITERASC said:
not necessarily :)

because
the boat sank quickly.

MOON is FAST
MERCURY is FAST

The people missing
"..may not have had time to get out of the boat..."




A new CCTV clip - MERCURY - INFORMATION
taken from a villa only 200m away
has emerged, and shows the £14million vessel disappearing
off the coast of Porticello, Sicily
as it is engulfed by the heavy rain.
Lights from the yacht can also be seen in the distance
before tragedy strikes.

One witness told how he went to check his cameras
after hearing the news of the sinking
according to Giornale Di Sicilia.
The owner of the villa said:
"..In just sixty seconds, you can see the ship disappear. :)

THAT'S VERY FAST FOR A SUPPOSEDLY UNSINKABLE VESSEL

Of about twenty cameras installed in the house
only one was not disturbed by the wind and rain.
You can clearly see what is happening.
There was nothing that could be done for the boat.
It disappeared in a very short time.."

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If only there were a time clock on the video we could get an exact timing for the event.
 
ElenaJ said:
Do you know how to find it?
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You're experiencing difficulty finding it then:)

Alaunus said:
A time stamp of 05:30 flashes briefly in the upper right corner of this CCTV video:
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"..Speaking with Italian media, Angela, awaiting updates
regarding the fate of her husband and daughter
has revealed that she was awoken by a '..slight tilt..'
shortly before 5am
- the first sign of the freak waterspout that caused the sinking..."

www.mirror.co.uk

Yacht survivor recalls chilling first sign vessel was in jeopardy before sinking

A passenger who survived the Bayesian sinking of the coast of Sicily has spoken of the sickening moment those onboard realised something had gone catastrophically wrong
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk
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TRADITIONALLY
Saturn is malefic, masculine & diurnal.
Saturn controls seafaring
& waterside trades
also
violent deaths by water
VETTIUS VALENS - THE ANTHOLOGY

Chief executive of The Italian Sea Group
which made Mike Lynch's sunken superyacht
has questioned the state of alertness :)
of the captain and the crew
when it was hit by a storm.

Superyacht sinking: '..Why did no one go out to sea..?'​

chief executive of The Italian Sea Group asks​




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Cap said:
Scheat is very malefic and also known for sea disasters (like Titanic) but there is no connection with significators. On the other hand, although known as sometimes benefic star, Rigel has been connected with violent storms since ancient times. So, Jupiter on Rigel conj. Mars, that's the storm in the chart. And the storm is trine L1 almost exact.
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"..Rigel was thought by the Romans
to be productive of storms.."
The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, 1923, Vivian E. Robson :)

Rigel.JPG
 
A hole in one in the hull from the tornadic spout - like a lightning bolt?
The vaccum effect on a heavy vessel means that if one end tips, it can be sucked down by whatever force it is that the physicists call it. I remember that from the movie Titanic. Then it becomes like a torpedo on the descent. A boat made of styrofoam won't sink unless it takes on water, even then, it's usually partially submerged and bobbing on top. The boat must have been built like a tank. Tonnage.

Jupiter again. Wonder if the yacht's christening had a sun-jupiter aspect. maybe a conjunction or square.
 
Blister said:
Jupiter again. Wonder if the yacht's christening had a sun-jupiter aspect. maybe a conjunction or square.
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Not in the chart for the original launch of the yacht.

However John Thompson posted a chart for the "new" launching when the name was changed to Bayesian, and there is na exact jupiter/mars opposition.

Luxury yacht Bayesian sinks of the Sicilian coast

Chart for change of name adjusted to show Geodetic angles.
www.astrologyweekly.com
it's post #101.

The event chart, of course, has the recent mars/jupiter conjunction.
 
JUPITERASC said:
EVENT CHART PORTICELLO

ASCENDANT RULER MOON HOUSE 8 is OPPOSING
SUN MERCURY RETROGRADE ASSEMBLY HOUSE 2
MERCURY RULES HOUSES 12 & 3
MARS JUPITER ASSEMBLY HOUSE 12
horoscope-chart5-700__radix_19-8-2024_04-04.png

local authorities have confirmed the identities of
the six passengers that remain missing
including tech mogul Mike Lynch & his daughter Hannah.
While the six passengers are still missing - HOUSE 12 - HIDDEN
the body of the ship’s cook, identified by Antiguan News Room
as Antiguan citizen Ricardo Thomas
was previously retrieved from the water.


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JupiterAsc is there anyway you can repost this placidus? This is the second extremely rich person dying on the water incident in such a short amount of time. Overall - could it be Saturn in Pisces?
 
aqualovebot said:
JupiterAsc is there anyway you can repost this placidus? This is the second extremely rich person dying on the water incident in such a short amount of time. Overall - could it be Saturn in Pisces?
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There are multiple & interesting opinions on this issue:)

Most use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess PLANETARY STRENGTH


WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :)
so THEN
ANY quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH

tsmall rationale:
."..I use both whole signs and Placidus
because
The original idea of quadrant based house systems
was to determine angularity
&
never to replace the concept of topics.
So
count signs for topics
& use a house system overlaid onto it.
Because
capability
& angularity/ability to act
are two different things.."

tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius
some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so
Ancient TRADITIONAL meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts
such as:
the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the
Thema Mundi
the Joys


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES HELLENISTIC TOPICS
1g58irx2ocw11.png

PlanetaryJoys.jpg


THE TOTALITY OF TESTIMONIES IS THE FOCUS :)
Clearly multiple factors require consideration
including ECLIPSES :)
PROFECTION
ZODIACAL RELEASING

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JUPITERASC said:
There are multiple & interesting opinions on this issue:)

Most use Whole Sign Houses to determine TOPICS
then use any quadrant system to assess PLANETARY STRENGTH


WHOLE SIGN HOUSES clearly determines TOPICS
ELIMINATING AMBIGUITY OF HOUSE LOCATION of PLANET :)
so THEN
ANY quadrant house system
such as Placidus, Alcabitius et al
assists with determining PLANETARY STRENGTH

tsmall rationale:
."..I use both whole signs and Placidus
because
The original idea of quadrant based house systems
was to determine angularity
&
never to replace the concept of topics.
So
count signs for topics
& use a house system overlaid onto it.
Because
capability
& angularity/ability to act
are two different things.."

tsmall uses BOTH whole signs AND Placidus
I use BOTH whole signs AND Alcabitius
some use whole sign AND Regiomontanus
there are multiple QUADRANT house systems
its a matter of personal choice which to use
in tandem with WHOLE SIGN
IF one chooses to do so
Ancient TRADITIONAL meanings of the houses elegantly combined
fundamental astrological concepts
such as:
the distinction between day and night
the benefic/malefic nature of the planets
the symbolism of diurnal motion
the rulerships and exaltations in the
Thema Mundi
the Joys


THE FOLLOWING WHEEL ILLUSTRATES HELLENISTIC TOPICS
1g58irx2ocw11.png

PlanetaryJoys.jpg
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Perhaps repost was the wrong word. I was just interested in seeing which way Saturn was positioned in comparison to the submarine from last year. Otherwise I’m content with whole sign
 

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