Will we be together?

[Starfall]

Hi,

As background to this, I met a guy at my sports club and we got along great. But, we lost contact. I tried out a new sports club today and while talking to the coaches, this same guy comes over and says hi. I genuinely had no idea that he left our last sports club where we met. I'm shocked! The chance of meeting at exactly the same time, in the same place, a place that is new to both of us seems so uncanny. It has re-kindled my interest in him. We trained together tonight and had a good time, we will be training again going forward.

So I asked if we will be together.

There are some positives and negatives in this chart. Can you help figure it out? Any insights?

L1 is Venus in H7 of Scorpio.
L7 is Mars conjunct 4th cusp.
Both significators are in their fall.
Venus separates from a trine from Mars.
Venus is in the domicile of Mars - Mars receives Venus.
Moon in H12 of Aries applies by square to Mars in Cancer.
Moon and Mars exchange mutual reception by domicile.
Mars is immediately applying to Sun - prohibition.
Sun is disposed by Venus - me.
Biggest obstacle - is Sun really prohibition or a part of this picture?
Sun rules his 11th house. Sun could be another friend of his or - me. After all, much mutual reception here. Venus and Moon are in Mars' domicile. Mars in Moon's domicile and is in minor dignities of Moon and Venus.

What do you think?

 

[IleneK]

Hi,

As background to this, I met a guy at my sports club and we got along great. But, we lost contact. I tried out a new sports club today and while talking to the coaches, this same guy comes over and says hi. I genuinely had no idea that he left our last sports club where we met. I'm shocked! The chance of meeting at exactly the same time, in the same place, a place that is new to both of us seems so uncanny. It has re-kindled my interest in him. We trained together tonight and had a good time, we will be training again going forward.

So I asked if we will be together.

There are some positives and negatives in this chart. Can you help figure it out? Any insights?

L1 is Venus in H7 of Scorpio.
L7 is Mars conjunct 4th cusp.
Both significators are in their fall.

So you both are weak in this matter.
You/Venus are very into him, conjunct the descendant and receiving him/Mars by dignity.
He/Mars receives you/Venus by triplicity ruler, so likes you, but less so than you do him.
The mutual reception between Moon Mars is noteworthy. You/Moon apply to Mars, again suggesting you are the keener of the two of you. Yet the orb is pretty wide. Meanwhile Sun separates from a square to Mars [rather than Mars applying to Sun], and both significators are in fall, which looks like maybe he has just broken up with someone perhaps, not such a nice breakup for either of them?

I think you and he might get together with the Moon Mars connection, but with the orb being so great and Moon in the 12th, I don't see it being too soon. Maybe because he needs to get over a recent unpleasant breakup?

 

[IRIS70]

So you both are weak in this matter.
You/Venus are very into him, conjunct the descendant and receiving him/Mars by dignity.
He/Mars receives you/Venus by triplicity ruler, so likes you, but less so than you do him.
The mutual reception between Moon Mars is noteworthy. You/Moon apply to Mars, again suggesting you are the keener of the two of you. Yet the orb is pretty wide. Meanwhile Sun separates from a square to Mars [rather than Mars applying to Sun], and both significators are in fall, which looks like maybe he has just broken up with someone perhaps, not such a nice breakup for either of them?

I think you and he might get together with the Moon Mars connection, but with the orb being so great and Moon in the 12th, I don't see it being too soon. Maybe because he needs to get over a recent unpleasant breakup?

@ΙleneK , hi!
I am trying to learn Horary. In the chart posted, the Moon first sextiles Jupiter and then aspects Mars (one of the significators). Doesn't this mean that someone else/something else is getting in the way? Aren't there too many aspects BEFORE the Moon aspects Mars? I am definitely not in position to judge, as I have very little knowledge, but the next aspect being to the Sun offers the answer to me.

Can you please help me understand, why you focus on a particular aspect and overlook the one taking place before?

 

[Starfall]

Thank you very much for taking a look IleneK.

Whoops - quite right about the Mars//Sun separating.

Hi IRIS70, fair point. I wonder why the Moon/Jupiter sextile didn't show up in the aspect grid? The orbs on astro.com? Jupiter rules the 8th and the 12th.

Whatever happens, I'll post an update as I usually do (could be weeks according to the chart).

 

[ElenaJ]

Starfall, the chart has moon in the 12th approaching a sextile with Jupiter in your 2nd of self esteem.
Jupiter rules your 8th of sex and your 12th of hidden bed pleasures.
So this is what you might expect from this relationship, which however could give you an ego boost.
Moon last passed over saturn in his 5th house, so the idea of a recent breakup (very recent) is quite possible.
The following moon square mars contact, with mutual reception, confirms the idea of a sexual affair. Mars is intercepted ruler of the 12th.
The reception aids you two coming together, but the square does not promise an easy relationship.
Venus you will note makes no contacts at all.
So you might land up being a fling on the rebound for this person.

I met a guy at my sports club

Remember, both jupiter and mars are related to sports!

 

[IleneK]

Thank you very much for taking a look IleneK.

Whoops - quite right about the Mars//Sun separating.

Hi IRIS70, fair point. I wonder why the Moon/Jupiter sextile didn't show up in the aspect grid? The orbs on astro.com? Jupiter rules the 8th and the 12th.

You are welcome, starfall. I think that Moon Jup may not show up as an aspect because they are out of orb as allowed in the settings at astro.com

Whatever happens, I'll post an update as I usually do (could be weeks according to the chart).

Thank you and looking forward to your update.

 

[IleneK]

@ΙleneK , hi!
I am trying to learn Horary. In the chart posted, the Moon first sextiles Jupiter and then aspects Mars (one of the significators). Doesn't this mean that someone else/something else is getting in the way?

Hi Iris. Yes it does. If it were not for the mutual reception between Moon and Mars, I would have written off Moon Mars entirely as anything favorable. But mutual reception to my mind is not to be ignored, which is why I offered the possibility, but no time soon. I suppose when I saw how far out of orb Moon Mars were, I did not look any further to consider Moon Jup.

Aren't there too many aspects BEFORE the Moon aspects Mars?

Well, there is one aspect, to Jup.

I am definitely not in position to judge, as I have very little knowledge, but the next aspect being to the Sun offers the answer to me.

I am not sure which aspect to Sun you are referring to, as Sun separates from Jup and Mars? And Moon does not come along to aspect Sun for some time.

Can you please help me understand, why you focus on a particular aspect and overlook the one taking place before?

I do not think it completely true that we do this:

focus on a particular aspect and overlook the one taking place before?

It depends upon the nature of the question: is it about the past, present or future. But when we do abide by this practice of focusing on a particular aspect and not the one before, it is because contextually that is what the question calls for. And we do not necessarily overlook the previous aspect; it just may not offer any information are the question. Sorry if this vague. Astrology is science and art. This is the art part .
Good questions all.

 

[IRIS70]

Hi Iris. Yes it does. If it were not for the mutual reception between Moon and Mars, I would have written off Moon Mars entirely as anything favorable. But mutual reception to my mind is not to be ignored, which is why I offered the possibility, but no time soon. I suppose when I saw how far out of orb Moon Mars were, I did not look any further to consider Moon Jup.

Well, there is one aspect, to Jup.

I am not sure which aspect to Sun you are referring to, as Sun separates from Jup and Mars? And Moon does not come along to aspect Sun for some time.



I do not think it completely true that we do this:

It depends upon the nature of the question: is it about the past, present or future. But when we do abide by this practice of focusing on a particular aspect and not the one before, it is because contextually that is what the question calls for. And we do not necessarily overlook the previous aspect; it just may not offer any information are the question. Sorry if this vague. Astrology is science and art. This is the art part .
Good questions all.

Thanks a million for your answer and time, it is clear and it makes sense the way you put it.

 

[IRIS70]

I wonder why the Moon/Jupiter sextile didn't show up in the aspect grid?

This is because it is a future aspect and the orbit of sextile is only up to 5 degrees from either side. The chart as it is has no aspect between the Moon and Jupiter.