A Capricorn take on sports betting astrology.

[oolongmonkey]

If there is any edge in predicting outcomes of a game it must have to do with transits for player, coaches and teams.

Casting a game day chart and determining that a color indicates home team or a favorite indicates home team is completely illogical. Let me tell you why and I would love for someone to tell me where I'm wrong.

Tomorrow in the US is college football day. 828 college football teams are all playing tomorrow many at the same times. There are some populated areas in the North East that might have 100 identical charts with perhaps100s more with nearly identical charts. So our of those 100 teams that have identical charts your going to tell me that all teams with the same color will win? Or all teams that are the home team will win? Or all teams that are favorite will win? Doesn't this sound completely irrational and naive?

Like no one in the history of sports ever seemed to noticed that teams with the same color when they play at the same time in the same general region all win/lose?

Listen, I have dreams of quitting my day job, playing with natal charts, placing some bets and retiring in my ocean front mansion.... help this make sense to me.

If you think I'm wrong I would sincerely want someone to tell me how and why.

 

[oolongmonkey]

Anyone one? Harsh realities are not as popular as soft fantasies - This is why sports betting is a multibillion dollar industry.

 

[conspiracy theorist]

The sports betting guys are usually cloistered off in one thread where they argue among themselves.

I suspect that IF there is someone out there that happened to crack the code of using astrology to successfully call bets, they 1) won't be sharing it on an open forum and/or 2) are charging an arm and a leg for access.

 

[oolongmonkey]

I've read every book I could find on the subject - ever rare out of print ones that I paid upwards of $500 dollars for. Countless Zoom calls and correspondences. II've run statistical analysis of over 75K sporting event charts and churned data, desperately trying to find an edge, tested all the astro betting theories including dozens of other that I thought could influence a match - and guess what - all I found was random distribution with NO statistical significance. NONE, ZERO, NADA! It was very sobbering as I had put countless hours into this venture and went into it with great optimism.
This one guy on here claiming a 95% hit rate, LMAO ----

Don't waste yor time like I did or rather you probably will feel compelled to waster your time like I did so so right ahead!|

In fact, I'll offer someone $10K if they can demonstrate to me a live hit rate of greater that 65% of at least 200 events or more. DM me if interested. I'll even sign a contract with you.

 

[conspiracy theorist]

The closest I've come to being interested in anything approximating using astrology to win at a lottery/betting system is learning about Jim Simons' Medallion Fund (with its black box proprietary method that consistently beats the market) and watching a few videos on card counters in Vegas and Asia; which is say none at all. Sports Betting Astrology (or Stock Market Astrology or any such permutations) would at most be a curiosity for me to pursue; there are easier ways to make money.

 

[oolongmonkey]

The closest I've come to being interested in anything approximating using astrology to win at a lottery/betting system is learning about Jim Simons' Medallion Fund (with its black box proprietary method that consistently beats the market) and watching a few videos on card counters in Vegas and Asia; which is say none at all. Sports Betting Astrology (or Stock Market Astrology or any such permutations) would at most be a curiosity for me to pursue; there are easier ways to make money.

For sure... Card Counting can give real edge - I do it, but ulimtately it's a huge investment of time to get proficient and even once you do - youre still going to have draw downs and once you get good, you-ll get back off the casinos and put into the database - so there's thats.

 

[Tas_Hob]

Hi!

We are all looking for answers to these questions.
You are absolutely right - to identify the winner of the match you need to have accurate information:
- The date of birth of the team (when it was formed and what its transits are at the time of the match. Each team has one or more planets ruling them).
- accurate knowledge of the birthdates of the coach, captain, and other important members of the team.
- Your own transits (without them, it is useless to look for anything; even the best solution may be missed or not utilized if the person charting it has weak transits for the day of the game).

This is the most important information to determine the outcome of the match. The main problem is finding it. Nothing more is needed. Contact clubs, get in touch with people you know, gather information, observe the behavior of the team under certain planets to figure out the affiliation).

Another choice is to find a system that helps to identify not the winner, but to understand how many goals or points a team will score or accumulate per game (over/under). I have a hunch that this is a bit easier to identify, but I could be wrong.

 

[oolongmonkey]

Hi!

We are all looking for answers to these questions.
You are absolutely right - to identify the winner of the match you need to have accurate information:
- The date of birth of the team (when it was formed and what its transits are at the time of the match. Each team has one or more planets ruling them).
- accurate knowledge of the birthdates of the coach, captain, and other important members of the team.
- Your own transits (without them, it is useless to look for anything; even the best solution may be missed or not utilized if the person charting it has weak transits for the day of the game).

This is the most important information to determine the outcome of the match. The main problem is finding it. Nothing more is needed. Contact clubs, get in touch with people you know, gather information, observe the behavior of the team under certain planets to figure out the affiliation).

Another choice is to find a system that helps to identify not the winner, but to understand how many goals or points a team will score or accumulate per game (over/under). I have a hunch that this is a bit easier to identify, but I could be wrong.

Agreed that over under might work better. Even then though you can throw out all transits, dignity, house placements otherwise the vast majority of games that start at the exact time would have similar outcome. Referrencing my first post - you'd have dozens of game with very similar outcomes and that just isnt the case. You;ll have exact start times with events that are sometimes a couple of miles away with opposite outcomes - watch CFB this Saturday. Same with transits. Look at Kobe's 81 pt game transits - bad. The Syracuse QB had a historical bad performance last week and had some of the most beautiful transits you can ask for. I haven't found transits to be terribly inspiring either....

 

[Tas_Hob]

Agreed that over under might work better. Even then though you can throw out all transits, dignity, house placements otherwise the vast majority of games that start at the exact time would have similar outcome. Referrencing my first post - you'd have dozens of game with very similar outcomes and that just isnt the case. You;ll have exact start times with events that are sometimes a couple of miles away with opposite outcomes - watch CFB this Saturday. Same with transits. Look at Kobe's 81 pt game transits - bad. The Syracuse QB had a historical bad performance last week and had some of the most beautiful transits you can ask for. I haven't found transits to be terribly inspiring either....

But do you know the exact birthdates of players and coaches? Or the dates of foundation of clubs? Everything must be as accurate as possible.
Astrology can hardly give an exact answer to anything. It's not math.
For example, one team has its own special spirit, but another team may be its opposite and subject to different influences from the outside. But both matches will be played at the same time, and so the result for each will be according to its spirit.
I don't think we will ever find an ideal system that allows us to get even 70% accurate results.
Astrology is too subtle with a huge number of components. A team, like a person, is a whole organism. A micro-universe: a person and his organs; a team and its players; a club and its foundation, infrastructure, history.
Matches starting at the same time cannot initially end with the same score or follow a similar scenario. We are all different, which means we will all be affected differently by celestial objects. I assume that this is the difficulty (or even impossibility) to make such an accurate analysis to take all this into account.

And the most important thing is our own transits and our predisposition to profit from such activities. I have no doubt about that. Once I achieved incredible results in analysis, it was an inspiring period, but when it was over, everything seemed to disappear and the methods that worked were empty. Although they brought incredible results for me.

 

[Tas_Hob]

But an interesting science experiment could be done.
Create a league with several teams on certain dates and times that we will know, pick players for them, where again, we will know their exact dates and times of birth. Hold a championship, collecting statistics and analyzing the data according to this theory.
There is no other way to understand it, only through a real experiment. If you don't have accurate data, everything is useless.
It is quite possible that through such solutions may appear answers to some difficult questions or open your eyes to the fact that all this is impossible.

 

[comet52]

I've tried to do this via first professional, non-exhibition game as a natal, looking at transits, progs, arcs, returns, etc. Mostly looking at angularity in biwheels and compiling stats. It's interesting but a labor of love. It's not a hugely profitable thing, I'd say you'd make better money at any decent job and without the aggravation of gambling which is risky and frustrating at times.

Maybe someone who is better at stats, can program a computer, etc. could really take this work and do something amazing with it. Most of my efforts have been at trying to precisely rectify charts and then test timings of transits, etc. with these. The things I've learned along the way are useful for any kind of astrology.

When people these days want to throw up their hands and argue that astrology must just be divination, or it can't be very accurate I'd say no, it's precise timing of everything in our lives. But honestly, easier seen in hindsight, that's the sad truth. So much is going on at any given time and we are not imo living lives where constant prediction of the future would actually benefit us, it would hinder us I think. I'll leave sports prediction out of that opinion however.

But digression aside, rectifying charts is job one imho. Then learning what progression, return, and other techniques can yield results. Parallels are a whole world of info a lot of astrologers don't even bother with for example. JMO.

 

[Alchemist19]

I've read every book I could find on the subject - ever rare out of print ones that I paid upwards of $500 dollars for. Countless Zoom calls and correspondences. II've run statistical analysis of over 75K sporting event charts and churned data, desperately trying to find an edge, tested all the astro betting theories including dozens of other that I thought could influence a match - and guess what - all I found was random distribution with NO statistical significance. NONE, ZERO, NADA! It was very sobbering as I had put countless hours into this venture and went into it with great optimism.
This one guy on here claiming a 95% hit rate, LMAO ----

Don't waste yor time like I did or rather you probably will feel compelled to waster your time like I did so so right ahead!|

In fact, I'll offer someone $10K if they can demonstrate to me a live hit rate of greater that 65% of at least 200 events or more. DM me if interested. I'll even sign a contract with you.

I would say this. As a fellow Capricorn, I've been studying this for about 6 months now, very intensely, meaning every free minute I have, every day. I knew from the start that all the forums and books out there are garbage. Agreed, picking colors to represent who owns the Ascendant is dumb. Astrology wouldn't work that way. And yes, no one is giving you anything real on the internet. So, having experience in backtesting in financial trading strategies, I took that angle and started as I knew nothing and just looked at the astrology from the game birth chart and try to find repeated patterns. Beginning was very slow and super frustrating. There is so much to look at and I was trying every single I could logically deduce may work or would make sense. Since I already had years reading charts for people and being primarily a self taught "astrologer", I knew that there had to be something there. After hundreds of hours of looking at charts, I'm at the point now where I can see what I need to focus on more. I am just starting to have success, not in predicting which side wins or loses, but predicting scoring amounts for games. I'm still puzzled as to why 2 games that start at the same time, in a different city, in the same time zone, can literally have opposite results, despite the charts being almost identical. For example, many times 4 baseball games in Central Time zone with same start time, 3 games home wins, many times with exact same score, and 4th team away wins...???

There's absolutely something going on and I'm making progress. I have noticed that I'm seeing the charts more in depth now. Noticing things I did not see in the beginning. It's like taking a walk to your favorite part of the forest over and over again. The more you visit and watch, the more things you notice and eventually you learn the ways of the forest. You will see and know things a casual visitor won't. Same thing here.

I can imagine that after many, many years of studying this, one could get good at this and be highly accurate in making predictions. There is absolutely something here to find.