Climes / Chorography: did you ever use it & what do you think about it?

[Dima Gur]

Hi,

Recently I've been delving deeper into the topic of climes (bands of latitude around the equator) or chorography (geographical regions assigned to signs of the zodiac). I've mainly been reading Ben Dykes' Astrology of the World Vol.1, the chapter on these topics.

As far as I understand, climes stand for those bands of latitude around the equator.
Or alternatively, chorography stands for assigning rulership by sign or planet, for different countries and/or geographical areas. To make a point, we have those notes in traditional sources, of this or that country being assigned to this or that zodiac sign or planet (say Islamic countries to Venus).
I must admit though, that these lists feel outdated. They usually include parts of the old known world, without including areas of post-columbian exploration, like Australia, South America, East Asia, etc.
Thus, I'm not sure we could easily adapt the use of these techniques to modern times.

Also, contemporary astrologers usually work with country foundation/independence charts, when they do mundane.
It seems to me like a contradiction to what traditional astrologers did in the history of our field, when a certain country was associated with a certain sign or planet. Say, Abu Mashar assigning Syria to Virgo or Ethiopia to Capricorn, or Ptolemy assigning Aries to England, France and Germany.

So, my questions are:
Did you ever use, or experiment with climes/chorography, and did it prove useful or accurate?
Do you think it's just a relic of the tradition, or maybe this technique could be renewed and revived?
Any other ideas or thoughts on the subject would be welcome.

 

[Humanitarian]

I've been experimenting with chorography for months, and I see that it's accurate in general. For example, my country, Vietnam, is assigned as Gemini, and majority of my country's population are not fond of privacy, talkative, love seeing bad situations without helping them, and some of them are liars, heavy critics of others, and on social media, Vietnamese people tend to curse at each other and talk badly about each other for basically everything they see as different. And another part of my bloodline comes from Italy, which is a Leonine country. It looks majestically beautiful, and the culture here is more romantic than others, so we don't like war at all. Anyway, I feel like some countries aren't assigned though, like hardly-known American countries, or even some African countries, also, so we must observe the culture, the situations, and even the personality of the populace to assign the right zodiac sign to that country.

 

[waybread]

I haven't used them myself or read Dykes' book, but it sure sounds a lot like Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos.

 

[Dima Gur]

I've been experimenting with chorography for months, and I see that it's accurate in general. For example, my country, Vietnam, is assigned as Gemini, and majority of my country's population are not fond of privacy, talkative, love seeing bad situations without helping them, and some of them are liars, heavy critics of others, and on social media, Vietnamese people tend to curse at each other and talk badly about each other for basically everything they see as different. And another part of my bloodline comes from Italy, which is a Leonine country. It looks majestically beautiful, and the culture here is more romantic than others, so we don't like war at all. Anyway, I feel like some countries aren't assigned though, like hardly-known American countries, or even some African countries, also, so we must observe the culture, the situations, and even the personality of the populace to assign the right zodiac sign to that country.

Humanitarian thanks,
The assignment of Vietnam to Gemini and Italy to Leo.
What is the source of these assignments?

It's funny how the inhabitants of of a certain country are the country's biggest critics, at times.