Diving yacht Sea Storm sinks

[John Thompson]

Why do so many of these yacht sinkings take place during the night/before dawn?
Doesn't anything go wrong at noon when everyone is up and awake?

Good question, but more fatalities happen in the early hours and the horror seems to be more dramatic for those in the dark; the media ramp this stuff up I believe, and the water far colder and people less aware possibly through having too many night-caps; alcohol won't help in such situations.

 

[leomoon]

Scuba Scene has Mars at 3 Pisces and the Sea Legend the Sun at 3 Pisces.

3Pisces is conjunct "Fomalhaut" the Persian Royal Star. It suggests fame, being written up in the papers or TV in modern days. It's always been associated with fame, but not necessarily of the good variety either (news) both good and not so good.

 

[John Thompson]

3Pisces is conjunct "Fomalhaut" the Persian Royal Star. It suggests fame, being written up in the papers or TV in modern days. It's always been associated with fame, but not necessarily of the good variety either (news) both good and not so good.

Have been very aware of Fomalhaut, one of those stars that give extremes of high note or decimation; trouble is, how do we know which it will be? Captain of a ship is a high exaltation, but when things go wrong? Prominence is the only factor that we see in reality, whether good or otherwise.

 

[ElenaJ]

Have been very aware of Fomalhaut, one of those stars that give extremes of high note or decimation; trouble is, how do we know which it will be? Captain of a ship is a high exaltation, but when things go wrong? Prominence is the only factor that we see in reality, whether good or otherwise.

Actually, outside of the diving sector, how many had ever heard of this company, the owner, or the yacht?
Now prominent in the news.
The owner's FB page is very strange.
One of the articles mentions the comment of a customer who was in the shop and didn't realise until the end that Ali Aref was actually the owner.

 

[leomoon]

Have been very aware of Fomalhaut, one of those stars that give extremes of high note or decimation; trouble is, how do we know which it will be? Captain of a ship is a high exaltation, but when things go wrong? Prominence is the only factor that we see in reality, whether good or otherwise.

You'll know when it's in the papers or TV Seriously, I did tons of charts with Fomalhaut prominent, both good and bad news in each. I don't think you can tell ahead of time. I do think however it's only the planets (my husband has POF 3 Pisces) nothing there in the news (knock on wood), so just the planets.
according to Bayer the constellation is of the nature of Saturn. It is said to have an influence similar to Pisces, but in addition to augment the fortunes. [Robson, p.57.]

"An Immortal Name"
It has a Mercury-Venus character with a blending of Neptune influence. According to tradition, this star is of quite variable effect, either very good or very bad, depending on the overall cosmic structure. It is assumed, however, that the helpful influence is the greater one and if in conjunction with Mercury, it is said to stimulate mental capabilities and promise success as a writer or scientist. On the Ascendant and in good aspect, tradition has it that this star will make for ‘fame’ and a name ‘remembered forever note: could also be in an obituary - as easily as a famous scientist on TV

[Fixed Stars and Their Interpretation, Elsbeth Ebertin, 1928, p.78.]

If rising or culminating: Great and lasting honors. [Robson, p.166.]

 

[ElenaJ]

I did tons of charts with Fomalhaut prominent,

Does it always stay at 3 pisces?

 

[leomoon]

Good question, but more fatalities happen in the early hours and the horror seems to be more dramatic for those in the dark; the media ramp this stuff up I believe, and the water far colder and people less aware possibly through having too many night-caps; alcohol won't help in such situations.

Here is a report a guy did for his trip. There are lots of photos too. Seems it's a "family affair" Ali, his brother, his sister, etc. Happens a lot in Egypt I found where the parents die and leave family businesses or the money to the kids like here,- and they all are likely to be involved.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g297549-d15398534-r895888300-Dive_Pro_Liveaboard-Hurghada_Red_Sea_and_Sinai.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=733547601

the cruise director, Ala, who happened to be the owner's brother, lacked effective communication skills, leading to a disorganized and chaotic trip. Important information was often relayed through hearsay or required direct inquiries to be presented to the group. Moreover, there was a lack of explanation or accountability whenever incidents occurred, leaving guests in the dark. For instance, one morning, we witnessed black smoke emanating from the engine room, accompanied by crew members yelling, yet no explanation was provided

The Zodiac boats used for transfers were in a state of major disrepair. Lacking ladders,

It was also disheartening to discover that Dive Pro had misspelled their own boat's name on the Zodiac. (note: Typical Egyptian thing)

Nonetheless, our confidence in the guide, Dania, the owner's sister, quickly waned. She lacked basic skills, such as converting rough psi to bar, failed to ask about our air consumption and would shoot to the surface when launching her SMB. Moreover, she exhibited careless behavior by touching live corals for stability and dragging her fins across the reef.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g297549-d15398534-r895888300-Dive_Pro_Liveaboard-Hurghada_Red_Sea_and_Sinai.html

 

[leomoon]

Does it always stay at 3 pisces?

Fixed stars aren't really fixed. They move extremely slowly - one degree every 72 years. A few seconds of arc 50.2

Remember the opposite Sign, in this case Virgo at 3 degrees or close also counts.

Astrology: Fixed Stars

Astrology: Fixed Stars, Algol, the Pléiades, Aldébaran, Rigel, Bételgeuse, Sirius, Castor, Pollux, Procyon, Regulus, Spica, Arcturus, Accrux, Agena, Bungala, Antarès, Spiculum, Vega, Altaïr, Fomalhaut, Deneb-Adige, Acharnar

www.astrotheme.com

 

[John Thompson]

Fixed stars aren't really fixed. They move extremely slowly - one degree every 72 years. A few seconds of arc 50.2

Remember the opposite Sign, in this case Virgo at 3 degrees or close also counts.

Astrology: Fixed Stars

Astrology: Fixed Stars, Algol, the Pléiades, Aldébaran, Rigel, Bételgeuse, Sirius, Castor, Pollux, Procyon, Regulus, Spica, Arcturus, Accrux, Agena, Bungala, Antarès, Spiculum, Vega, Altaïr, Fomalhaut, Deneb-Adige, Acharnar

www.astrotheme.com

On 4 degrees now.

 

[ElenaJ]

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g297549-d15398534-r895888300-Dive_Pro_Liveaboard-Hurghada_Red_Sea_and_Sinai.html

It seems that quite a few 5 star reviews as well. Either zero or 5.Strange.

 

[John Thompson]

Either zero or 5

The extremes of the fixed stars.

 

[leomoon]

On 4 degrees now.

Usually, we are looking at natal charts however. Way back when. But even at 4 degrees, still counts up to a few degrees (perhaps?) We'll have to watch it

 

[leomoon]

Hurricane Yacht - 3 dead from Fire

 

[leomoon]

Since we had been to the site they were traveling to very early in the A.M. (which is when they always leave) it's a deadly 2 lane road, the drivers go fast to get there before the heat gets bad; and it's dark at that time of A.M. We weren't on this trip - but we did see the suitcases of the dead come back to the ship (our ship) they departed from .... So sad, you never forget.



The Injured were being evacuated by air ambulance to Cairo. He said five passengers, who were not hurt, were sent on to a cruise boat waiting for them on the Nile River.

Egyptian Authorities provided the names of the injured tourists and indicated that six of the eight who died were women. An Egyptian doctor in Aswan said most of the patients were in stable condition. He said four of those who were seriously injured were operated on and doctors were working to set fractures and broken bones

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Egyptian-Bus-Crash-Kills-8-American-Tourists-112468884.html

An official of Misr Sinai Tours, which was running the bus service, said the accident occurred around dawn while it was still dark about 13 miles outside of Aswan.

The official said the bus, containing 37 passengers, was part of a larger tour of 116 American tourists traveling in three buses.

The U.S. embassy in Cairo confirmed that the injured are being moved by military transport to Cairo, but said in a statement that it didn't have any further information on the accident or those involved.

Kills 8 American Tourists on Egyptian Tour Bus going to Aswan:

Egyptian Bus Crash Kills 8 American Tourists

Tour bus slams into a parked truck filled with sand on the road from Aswan to Abu Simbel

www.voanews.com

 

[leomoon]

Tragic Tour Bus in Egypt Christmas 2010:

13 miles outside of Aswan

December 26, 2010 time of accident 5:20 A.M.

Sunday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12080022

Eight American tourists died and 21 were injured when their bus hit a stationary lorry in southern Egypt, say media and police.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/21/egypt-bus-crash.html (This is ANOTHER accident of Bus near the Red Sea that same year)

1.9.2011 time of accident about 5:30AM

To fellow GCT travelers:

Yes, the bus accident was a GCT group. We were in the first bus with Amin, it was the second bus with Sami that, for unknown reason, drove into a parked dump truck full of sand. The impact sheared off the right side of the bus and killed the 8 people sitting on the right window side. Many of the injured slide under the seat in front of them or sailed over the top of seats.

Please, if you are traveling on a bus buckle up!! The buses had seat belts but no one used them until after the accident.

I wish GC would post a notice on how people are doing. 10 returned to finish the tour with us, 19 were hospitalized. Sam was seriously injured, as was the bus driver. When we left Jan 1st there were still 4 people in ICU.

Ray and Diane, Oxnard, CA

 

[John Thompson]

Usually, we are looking at natal charts however. Way back when. But even at 4 degrees, still counts up to a few degrees (perhaps?) We'll have to watch it

Personally I keep the fixed stars to the mundane, but then we all have our own ways of doing things. If a natal chart gives so many indications I will always take note; just as with others suggestions.

 

[leomoon]

Personally I keep the fixed stars to the mundane, but then we all have our own ways of doing things. If a natal chart gives so many indications I will always take note; just as with others suggestions.

The beauty of Astrology - it's an art so to each their own

Bus Accident near Aswan Egypt on the way to Abu Simbel : 2010 Dec, 26th 5:30A.M. POF 4th hs. square Mars in Cap. critical 13th deg. opposite Libra 16th deg. Saturn
MC IS 29TH DEGREE.

Eight Ukrainian tourists died in a traffic accident last month * November 2010 on the serpentine highway from the coastal resort town of Hurghada to Suez.-

 

[John Thompson]

The beauty of Astrology - it's an art so to each their own

Bus Accident near Aswan Egypt on the way to Abu Simbel : 2010 Dec, 26th 5:30A.M. POF 4th hs. square Mars in Cap. critical 13th deg. opposite Libra 16th deg. Saturn
MC IS 29TH DEGREE.

Eight Ukrainian tourists died in a traffic accident last month * November 2010 on the serpentine highway from the coastal resort town of Hurghada to Suez.-

So the Geodetic MC will be at 2 Taurus 53, with the antiscia of Chiron/Neptune at the IC; but we digress.

 

[leomoon]

So the Geodetic MC will be at 2 Taurus 53, with the antiscia of Chiron/Neptune at the IC; but we digress.

Now you are talking mathematics not art - or both? To a mathematician, his math is art.

 

[Opal]

Sorry to hear about your witnessing the sadness. Traumatic.

This chart the bus accident, Jupiter and Uranus in Pisces and Chiron and Neptune in Aquarius housed in the 3rd, of short journeys. If you look at it as a short journey, off the cruise ship.

The first house those Earthy tight conjunctions are crazy. NN, Sun, Lachesis and Pluto, sextile Moirai.

And the Saturn Klotho opposition. There is a lot of early degrees, and nothing in the 8th.

Earthy Virgo moon trine the first house Earthy planets.

Juno has strong opposition too, Uranus and Jupiter. Ouch.