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This is a few days ago, a great white attacked a man, decimating him.

Another kite.


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This is a few days ago, a great white attacked a man, decimating him.

Another kite.


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This is a puzzling chart.
The time should be rather accurate considering the eyewitnesses present at the time of the attack.
Why is Capricorn on the ascendent?
After thinking about it a while, perhaps it is the Capricorn/saturn symbolism of older persons?
The victim was not particularly young, especially for a surfer, he was 55 years old.
Checking the ephemeris for 1968, roughly his birth period, there was a pluto/jupiter conjunction at the end of virgo, possibly involving mars depending on his actual birth date, that is currently opposing the transiting Neptune in pisces.
Neptune in 1968 was near the end of scorpio, trine the transiting Neptune in pisces.
This would help narrow down the field of possible victims to just several million persons!

Sagittarius on the 12th, ruled by expansive Jupiter, in the shark's 5th. Hunting for food?
NN is also at the cusp of the 5th.
Moon is in gemini, a playful sign, by the 6th cusp, separating from the square to Saturn, ascendent ruler.
So both earth, air and fire are significators in the chart.
Jupiter (in an earth sign) separated from opposition to both mars and mercury, in watery scorpio.
Neptune by the 4th cusp of endings, gemini moon rules the 8th of death.

Any insights?

Here is a link to an informative article on shark attacks in general.
 
This is a puzzling chart.
The time should be rather accurate considering the eyewitnesses present at the time of the attack.
Why is Capricorn on the ascendent?
After thinking about it a while, perhaps it is the Capricorn/saturn symbolism of older persons?
The victim was not particularly young, especially for a surfer, he was 55 years old.
Checking the ephemeris for 1968, roughly his birth period, there was a pluto/jupiter conjunction at the end of virgo, possibly involving mars depending on his actual birth date, that is currently opposing the transiting Neptune in pisces.
Neptune in 1968 was near the end of scorpio, trine the transiting Neptune in pisces.
This would help narrow down the field of possible victims to just several million persons!

Sagittarius on the 12th, ruled by expansive Jupiter, in the shark's 5th. Hunting for food?
NN is also at the cusp of the 5th.
Moon is in gemini, a playful sign, by the 6th cusp, separating from the square to Saturn, ascendent ruler.
So both earth, air and fire are significators in the chart.
Jupiter (in an earth sign) separated from opposition to both mars and mercury, in watery scorpio.
Neptune by the 4th cusp of endings, gemini moon rules the 8th of death.

Any insights?

Here is a link to an informative article on shark attacks in general.
Wonder what 7 degrees Capricorn Sabian is?

Capricorn rules teeth? But its earth. Water signs are abundant, as they usually seem to be in very bloody scenes, (my opinion, not proven) but may be written by someone. Hahaha.

Good points, all of them.


Above of interest is Klotho, on the IC, deciding who will live or die.

Chiron is in Aries, fire, why the 4th?
 
Thank you for posting this chart, Opal! My heart goes out the families of those that died.

If I'm reading this correctly, then Venus was in this chart is conjunct the 5th house cusp at 22 LE 56 and thus opposing the 11th house cusp of 22 AQ 56 or thereabouts.

Over in the "Degree Symbols" forum (under "Other Astrology") we mostly talk a lot about the Sabian Symbols which were developed first by Marc Edmund Jones and Elsie Wheeler in 1925 and later popularized by Dane Rudhyar and several others.

It is interesting to note that the symbol/phrase for 22AQ is Aquarius 23 (A big bear sitting down and waving all its paws). The symbol for 22LE is Leo 23 (A bareback rider).

Capricorn degree 7 Ascendant.

Thanks sdh3 !

Supremacy, keyword. Okay. Shark won. In his house, Neptune of the sea, in the 4th, in his home? In Pisces, the sharks home, showing his supremacy over man?
 
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And could that explain Chiron in the 4th in Aries? The shark’s aggression and pain, showing anger over his home, being polluted? being chased and killed by man? Food sources diminished?

I was looking from human eyes, maybe I should have been looking through the sharks eyes?
 
Wonder what 7 degrees Capricorn Sabian is?

Capricorn rules teeth? But its earth. Water signs are abundant, as they usually seem to be in very bloody scenes, (my opinion, not proven) but may be written by someone. Hahaha.

Good points, all of them.


Above of interest is Klotho, on the IC, deciding who will live or die.

Chiron is in Aries, fire, why the 4th?
Apparently shark attacks occur often with mars/neptune aspects.
Which would make sense, although in this chart there is no such aspect.
Yes, Chiron in 4th in fire....
Still puzzling.
 
Apparently shark attacks occur often with mars/neptune aspects.
Which would make sense, although in this chart there is no such aspect.
Yes, Chiron in 4th in fire....
Still puzzling.
I’ve read that sharks generally don’t eat us, preferring seal and other sea creatures. Many mistake us and after a bite, stop and the injured survive.

This attack was brutal.

Why did the shark attack this man so violently?
 
The Moscow murders Kite.
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Oh my. I'm American but live in Sweden. I heard a little about these murders but assumed it was a shooting. As I read the Sabian symbols I thought, hold on this might have been stabbing. Either way, there are a combination of planets and symbols with a lot of potential for violence.

Sun @ Scorpio 22 (Hunters setting out for ducks). Hunter can be for sport or to kill for food or just to kill. Either way its predatory and stalking behavior. "Setting" can also be "sitting" and thus "sitting ducks" which connotes defenseless victims.

Venus @ Scorpio 27 (A military band on the march). This doesn't have to be a marching band/brass band but also a band of military men as it the film "a band of brothers." Not saying soldiers = violent man or men but it does suggest people/person trained in martial arts, defensive, and offensive fighting, combat, mortal combat, hand-to-hand combat. Maybe also a band of people attacked by one person with such training. Venus here could suggest and band or close-knit group women--and it was three young women who were housemates.

Mars @ Gemini 25 (A man trimming palms). Mars is sharp instruments. To trim palms requires a sharp hooked saw or knife. See attached image. When I got to this point I checked Wikipedia and found out, yes, it was a stabbing.

Uranus @ Taurus 17: A battle between swords and torches. In light of the above, this one needs no elaboration.

Interestingly, the Part of Fortune is Aquarius 18 (A man unmasked) which I guess is "fortunate" referring as it must to the identify of the assailant who was rather quickly identified. That symbol is trine Libra 18 which is "Two men placed under arrest." There was only the killer arrested so far. Makes me wonder if he had an accomplice or was motivated/helped by someone already under arrest or incarcerated.

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Why did the shark attack this man so violently?
Moon on 6th cusp, opposing the shark, could be gemini playing around. Moon in the shark's 7th of enemies, separating from the square with ascendent ruler Saturn, the victim could have disturbed the shark.
sharks generally don’t eat us, preferring seal and other sea creatures.
In the article I linked above, there is a note about the increase in sharks along the US northeast coastline.
Apparently, when seals were declared protected animals and their population grew, the sharks became attracted more and more to the area because there was a more abundant food supply.
 
Oh my. I'm American but live in Sweden. I heard a little about these murders but assumed it was a shooting. As I read the Sabian symbols I thought, hold on this might have been stabbing. Either way, there are a combination of planets and symbols with a lot of potential for violence.

Sun @ Scorpio 22 (Hunters setting out for ducks). Hunter can be for sport or to kill for food or just to kill. Either way its predatory and stalking behavior. "Setting" can also be "sitting" and thus "sitting ducks" which connotes defenseless victims.

Venus @ Scorpio 27 (A military band on the march). This doesn't have to be a marching band/brass band but also a band of military men as it the film "a band of brothers." Not saying soldiers = violent man or men but it does suggest people/person trained in martial arts, defensive, and offensive fighting, combat, mortal combat, hand-to-hand combat. Maybe also a band of people attacked by one person with such training. Venus here could suggest and band or close-knit group women--and it was three young women who were housemates.

Mars @ Gemini 25 (A man trimming palms). Mars is sharp instruments. To trim palms requires a sharp hooked saw or knife. See attached image. When I got to this point I checked Wikipedia and found out, yes, it was a stabbing.

Uranus @ Taurus 17: A battle between swords and torches. In light of the above, this one needs no elaboration.

Interestingly, the Part of Fortune is Aquarius 18 (A man unmasked) which I guess is "fortunate" referring as it must to the identify of the assailant who was rather quickly identified. That symbol is trine Libra 18 which is "Two men placed under arrest." There was only the killer arrested so far. Makes me wonder if he had an accomplice or was motivated/helped by someone already under arrest or incarcerated.

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Thank you for this. I believe that there had to be more than one killer, a lot of double signs and other strange indicators. I only posted it here because of the bloody horror of it, and the kite shape.

Mine is the unpopular belief.

This case stinks, astrologically, I feel there is a lot of deception of the truth.

I started a thread on this quite a while ago, and Jupiter Asc did another. If you believe that Bryan is the only perp, you might not like either thread.

I am about to coffee then work, will respond to your Fabulous Sabian’s tonight.

Thanks!
 
Moon on 6th cusp, opposing the shark, could be gemini playing around. Moon in the shark's 7th of enemies, separating from the square with ascendent ruler Saturn, the victim could have disturbed the shark.

In the article I linked above, there is a note about the increase in sharks along the US northeast coastline.
Apparently, when seals were declared protected animals and their population grew, the sharks became attracted more and more to the area because there was a more abundant food supply.
Thanks Elena! Gemini the trickster. I have read about the rise in population.

As I said, good morning! Coffee is ready!
 
Thank you for this. I believe that there had to be more than one killer, a lot of double signs and other strange indicators. I only posted it here because of the bloody horror of it, and the kite shape.

Mine is the unpopular belief.

This case stinks, astrologically, I feel there is a lot of deception of the truth.

I started a thread on this quite a while ago, and Jupiter Asc did another. If you believe that Bryan is the only perp, you might not like either thread.

I am about to coffee then work, will respond to your Fabulous Sabian’s tonight.

Thanks!
There was a lot of work done on this case, with a couple of threads running simultaneously .
Obviously, we never reached the point of identifying the murderer(s) but it did seem to come across that the accused Bryan is very likely not guilty.
 
The charts are for 2:30pm, the time of the 911 call. Incident not long before, but I couldn’t find the accurate time. Ascendant close but not accurate.

Here is a deadly polar bear attack this year, sadly a mother and her young son died in the incident.

The polar bear was shot by a resident.

I used Placidus and a Whole house system. Thought both should be displayed, as it is the North.


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There is not a lot of fatal polar bear attacks. They are a viscious bear though. Wouldn’t want to bump into one.

No kite.

Taurus has Uranus, NN and Moira.

12th has Mars, Gemini.

MC Capricorn is the midpoint for Klotho Aquarius and Pluto Capricorn. Tight conjunctions.
 
Oh my. I'm American but live in Sweden. I heard a little about these murders but assumed it was a shooting. As I read the Sabian symbols I thought, hold on this might have been stabbing. Either way, there are a combination of planets and symbols with a lot of potential for violence.

Sun @ Scorpio 22 (Hunters setting out for ducks). Hunter can be for sport or to kill for food or just to kill. Either way its predatory and stalking behavior. "Setting" can also be "sitting" and thus "sitting ducks" which connotes defenseless victims.

Venus @ Scorpio 27 (A military band on the march). This doesn't have to be a marching band/brass band but also a band of military men as it the film "a band of brothers." Not saying soldiers = violent man or men but it does suggest people/person trained in martial arts, defensive, and offensive fighting, combat, mortal combat, hand-to-hand combat. Maybe also a band of people attacked by one person with such training. Venus here could suggest and band or close-knit group women--and it was three young women who were housemates.

Mars @ Gemini 25 (A man trimming palms). Mars is sharp instruments. To trim palms requires a sharp hooked saw or knife. See attached image. When I got to this point I checked Wikipedia and found out, yes, it was a stabbing.

Uranus @ Taurus 17: A battle between swords and torches. In light of the above, this one needs no elaboration.

Interestingly, the Part of Fortune is Aquarius 18 (A man unmasked) which I guess is "fortunate" referring as it must to the identify of the assailant who was rather quickly identified. That symbol is trine Libra 18 which is "Two men placed under arrest." There was only the killer arrested so far. Makes me wonder if he had an accomplice or was motivated/helped by someone already under arrest or incarcerated.

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Three women and one man.


This is the thread I started. Elena J was here and as always very helpful. JA finds stuff I never could. The truth, will hopefully come out. It’s pretty dirty.

A lot of people think it’s Bryan by himself. I don’t think he has the capacity to kill four people in less than 20 minutes, and then no one left there called 911?

Not much trust in the said timeline either. Took people over 8 hours to call the police to the blood bath. WTF?
 
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