= 18* 
16' 08" ~ Part of Fortune
Asc. + - 
= 29* 
02' 57" Part of Service [Spiritual Service in the Highest]
please note that another obscure Part called the Part of Bondage shares the exact same co-ordinates as the Part of Service as its formula is Asc. + - Ruler of and as His Moon was in Virgo, which is ruled by Mercury, it comes out one and the same.
Asc. + - 
= 23* 
21' 37" ~ Part of Mother [Mind of Female]
Asc. + - 
= 11* 
13' 09" ~ Part of Kings [Disaasociation]
Asc. + - 
= 16* 
56' 50" ~ Part of Luck [Sons]
Asc. + - 
= 21* 
42' 33" ~ Part of Inheritance & Legacy
Asc. + - 
= 11* 56' 12" Part of Friends [Dramatization]
Asc. + - 
= 05* 
43' 01" Part of Revelation [Insincerity]
Asc. + - 
= 29* 09' 49" Part of Galvanization[?] [Race, Race & Race Consciousness{?}]*
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PLEASE NOTE:
In the following I have lost the exact seconds of the degree for a few of the Parts/Lots, those that use a House Cusp in the formula. Yet, as to what amount of seconds of a degree any Astrological Part, or Planet, or luminary, House cusp, etc. are of such little possible cause for concern that I am posting those Parts anyways. As the birth chart of Yeshu'a/Jesus needs only the Asc. in the first degree of Libra as the prime prerequisite there is about a four minute window of time that He could of been born during any one of those.240 seconds of time. Though I did manage to get it narrowed down to a 30 second window in time. I only claim to be accurate within 15 seconds in time either way [my clairvoyant says the actual time is a few seconds before that which I published, r.e. 5:23 pm] [April 17, 2021 Please note that I now know that the time could not have been any earlier than eleven seconds in time and thus no Part in these lists can possibly be any more than 00* 02' 29" less]. I know that there are at least a couple of astrological Parts that are close to a degrees' cusp and that the previous degrees Sabian Symbol is the one that obviously "fits the profile". When I first cast the chart at astrodienst their computer ephemeris only dealt with whole minutes and 5:23 was closer to the actuality than 5:22, or 5:24. As Astrodienst has deliberately changed the data for that date and time about six or seven years ago and in fact advancing Pluto the entire 00* 02' 00" that the JPL computer programmer that created the basic program, that astrodienst uses, said could be adjusted, plus or minus, as to the given position He had Pluto at in the original program. Those guys are actual rocket scientists, folks, and despite what the programmer said was allowable, I will wager dollars to donuts that Pluto was in the exact right position in the original program. What astrodienst did by moving Pluto a full 2 minutes of a degree.... I figured it out a few years back, I don't have those figures handy but I do remember that they moved Pluto somewhere as to around 4 million miles distance in space from the original charts' position given for Pluto. Astodienst claims this is due to their switching to a new basic program but I have a number of charts made before that date of the programs being switched in which adjustments had already been made and a number of adjustments at that as the charts I produced were made on different dates prior and all show different positions for Pluto. Yet they still deny doing so or at least so have to this day.
Obviously the Vatican is rather put out by this little chart I managed to produce and keep in mind that the Swiss have been providing the Pope with protection, free of charge, for centuries.
Thanks, ptv
Seven Hermetic Lots
Lot of Fortune [Day] ~ 18* 16' 08"
Lot of Soul/Spirit [Day] ~ 13* 10' 26"
Lot of Courage ~ Asc. + 
- = 00* 04'
Lot of Eros ~ Asc. + - Part of Soul/Spirit = 24* 
20'
Lot of Necessity ~ Asc. + - = 17* 54'
Lot of Victory ~ Asc. + - Part of Soul/Spirit = 00* 
45'
Lot of Nemesis ~ Asc. + - Saturn = 10* 34' [aka Part of Sudden Advancement, which I find to be a more suitable term]
[It is implied that there are three more of these "Lots". Using the outlining pattern they would consist of Asc + - Part of Spirt, and Asc. + - Part of Spirit. ...as to what they represent is under study. As for, Asc. + - see below. ]
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Asc. + - = 24* 19' 43" ~ Part of Noble & Illustrious Acquaintances [those that He deemed as such]
Asc. + - =07* 06' 51" ~ Part of Noble & Illustrious Acquaintances [those that deem Him as such]
Asc. + - C8 = 01* 51' ~ Part of Ancestral Heritage
Asc. + - = 25* 39' 01" ~ Part of Success
Asc. + - Part of Soul/Spirit = 05* 48' 58" ~ Part of Basis [Day]{A number of us here at the forum have produced enough evidence to convince us that this is actually a Part of 'Base Inclinations & Desires'}
Asc. + Part of Soul/Spirit - = 25* 
37' 36" ~ Part of Basis [Night]{We have determined, for considerable evidence, that this Part is in actuality a Part of 'Spiritual Aspirations'}
Asc. + - = 10* 33' 16" ~ Part of Sudden Advancement. [Hermetic Lot of Nemesis]
Asc. + - = 24* 33' 44" ~ Part of Imprisonment
Asc. + - Pre-natal New or Full Moon = 01* 50' 32" ~ Pars Hyleg
Asc. + Moon - Pre-natal Full Moon =16* 01' 12" [as the time I've been using since the beginning being exactly 5:23 P.M. and now knowing that it needs to be rectified by 15 to 20 seconds less all of these Parts would be reduced by about 3' 30" and then this Part actually is in the previous degree. ] April 17, 2021 Please Note that I've done the necessary calculations and have found that the birth could not have been any earlier than 5:22:49 P.M. The most any Part can be rectified is minus 00* 02' 35", but the time being no earlier that 5:22:49" then limits the rectification to no more than minus 00* 02' 29" less
Asc. + Moon - Post Natal Full Moon = 17* 25' 31" [please note this is the same Sign and degree of the USA's natal Part of Fortune]
Asc. + Moon - Post Natal New Moon = 03* 08' 18"
Asc. + 19* - = 07* 50' ~ Part of Nobility & Honor [Day] [I have no faith whatsoever in these so called Parts of Nobility & Honor as I am convinced there is no truth to their actually being "dignified degrees"]
Asc. + 03*
- = xx* ? xx' xx" ~ Part of Nobility & Honor [Night]
Asc. + C7th - = 07* 43' ~ Part of Marriage/Partners
Asc. + - C7th = xx* ? xx' xx" ~ Part of Divorce
Asc. + C8th - =29* 36' ~ Part of Death & Disaster [Unproven in my opinion]
Asc. + R8th - = 11* 13' ~ Part of Peril
Asc. + R12th - = 07* 23' 21" ~ Part of Assassination
M.C. + - = 13* 31' 17" ~ Part of Destiny
+ - = 24* 26' ~ Part of Bankruptcy
+ - = 02* 
43' 21" ~ Part of Assassination [Another "Part" of the same name, I'm partial to the other formula, but this is definitely something. See my thread on George 'Dubya' Bush and also the thread on Richard Nixon..ptv]
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* Yes, I realize this is conj. the Moon. I would like to remind all that this degree is considered to be the first step on the true path of discipleship...and Galvanization does sound like it applies here. ...it seems to apply to Race or Racial Consciousness in the USA chart... I'll have to give this particular Part more thought ...also could use some input...testimonials, on this formula and what it signifies.
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As this thread was started before we became aware that the formula Asc + Mars - Pluto delineates a Part of Rage, or War
[more appropriate for mundane charts of nations] and subsequently realizing that this proposed chart for Yeshu'a/Jesus has it's Mars in the same degree as this "Part of Rage" and, in addition, the later realization that the, so called, "Part of False Love" is actually a Part of Ideal, or Idealized Love, and that this chart does also produce that particular Part at the same degree as the natal Mars and the "Part of Rage" Ii amounts to a most thought provoking, and a most profound, revelation... in that it is so perfectly fitting for the Man from Nazareth, aka, "The Prince of Peace". If you give it some thought, yourselves, you'll most likely come to the same realization that I have, which is, that when He was brought to the point of rage, and his natal Mars then gave an impetus to take action, He would subject the causation to an assault of Ideal Love. Turning the other cheek, as He is reputed to have said. If that doesn't convince the most doubtful in the veracity of this natal chart, then I don't know what might do it... they're a hopeless lot, imho.
It became clear to us that the so called "Part of False Love" having Neptune in the position of the "Significator" and Neptune being a source of inner vision, that with Venus, the planet that is of the Heart and the source of ones own sensibilities of Love and Affections, being in the position and role of the "Trigger" and thus triggering the attributes and influences of Neptune [the "Higher Octave" of Venus] known to be the source of ones dreams and fancies of imagination, i.e. that "inner vision" in ones mind, it was quite easily deduced by all that this formula does truly provide an Astrological Lot of "Ideal Love". The opposite formula, i.e. Asc. + Venus - Neptune and as to what that produces? ...well, now that would certainly be easily assumed to be something of a "False Love" then, now wouldn't it?... or it may indicate those that would deem yourself as to be an incarnation of their vision of an "Ideal Love"? That is a question to as yet be resolved.
The point here is to know and understand that the precept [given by the Sabian Symbol for that Sign and degree] his natal Mars embodied, and the precept that gave cause as for Him to release rage upon anyone or anything, were both also the very same precept of the vision Yeshu'a/Jesus had, and that He held to be that of the embodiment, of His Ideal Love. All three were all one and the same in precept [which is revealed symbolically by the Sabian Symbol for the 19th degree of Gemini]... thus it could be said that Yeshu'a/Jesus' notion of waging war. or taking out his rage upon someone, anyone at all, was to wage love upon them... i.e. what He held to be the all embodiment of Ideal Love... Just beautiful, don't you all agree?
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To those that dis-believe the chart for April 2, 3 C.E. [A.D.] to be that of Jesus/Yeshua, would you please direct such critiques to the thread on the chart itself...as this thread is only a supplemental index to that one, and it will save a lot of confusion in the future, thank you, ptv.
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