The Ugly Side of the Age of Aquarius

[Humanitarian]

That would be assuming that ages have "hard barrier" that prevents their supposed influence before the full blown start of an age.

I believe you said it yourself, the preliminary influence of the Age of Aquarius will be felt as early as 2050s.

However, my concern is that humanity won't make it to 2050s without full scale nuclear war, irreversible DNA damage (transhumanism) or massive depopulation - or, most likely, all 3 at the same time.

According to David, Aquarian influences will be felt as early as the perihelion of the year 2047 (true age marker), but the mean one will come to Aquarius in 2149.

 

[JUPITERASC]

That would be assuming that ages have "hard barrier" that prevents their supposed influence before the full blown start of an age.

Exactly
keep in mind the "..five degree rule.."
as well as "..astrological orbs of influence.."
and so "..hard barrier.." is an assumption

I believe you said it yourself, the preliminary influence of the Age of Aquarius will be felt as early as 2050s.
However, my concern is that humanity won't make it to 2050s without full scale nuclear war,
irreversible DNA damage (transhumanism) or massive depopulation - or, most likely, all 3 at the same time.

A full scale nuclear war
followed by A NUCLEAR WINTER
SATURN Traditional ruler of AQUARIUS signifies EXTREME COLD

for example:






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[Cap]

SATURN Traditional ruler of AQUARIUS signifies EXTREME COLD

Also, next glacial period, full blown ice age will most definitely start during Age of Aquarius.

We are already past the expected start date of glacial period, according to Milanković cycles. So it may start tomorrow or within next few hundred years, but DEFINITELY it will start within next 2000 years (Age of Aquarius).

 

[Edrek]

Just a reminder. Check out Ray Grasse's Signs of the Times, esp. Chapter 3. It addresses what you're discussing here.

That would be assuming that ages have "hard barrier" that prevents their supposed influence before the full blown start of an age.

I believe you said it yourself, the preliminary influence of the Age of Aquarius will be felt as early as 2050s.

According to Grasse, already much earlier than that. The book may make you reconsider some things. It got me started on the whole topic in the first place.

 

[david starling]

The sign blending is important, and I believe I'm gradually seeing it happen. But, Age - rulership is where it's really at, and Saturn will be in full power until the Age - marker is firmly ensconced in Aquarius (2149 for the tropical Age). Then, and only then, Uranian Age - rulership can and will get off to a fast start.

Coincidentally, starting the sidereal Age of Pisces at the Anno Domini year 1, with the current sidereal Age - length of 2148 years, the sidereal Age of Aquarius will also begin in 2149.

 

[Opal]

The sidereal, I believe has already began.

The Water Bearer.

All of the representatives of an age have a theme to impart.

The Water, is now a large commodity.

It costs on a monthly rate on my utility bills.

It costs any size of bottled.

Water was not a big commodity in the recent past.

The weather changes when water levels change.

Aquarius as the water bearer.

A bearer “ a person whose job is to carry something, or a person who brings a message”

What message or when and why would the representative of Aquarius, have a need to carry out something.

Uranus and Aquarius also represent electricity.

With the changing water levels we are witnessing, larger electrical storms worldwide.

If like “they” say the icebergs are cleaving and melting, then the water levels should be much higher.

Why are the water levels going down instead of up?

Bottles of water don’t evaporate back into the system. They are just stored, in homes and warehouses worldwide.

What message will the bearer gift?

Theories of when it began or will begin are plenty.

Aquarius is impersonal. Now, after the said “pandemic” we are not as social. We have become accustomed to staying home. Not having people over.

The “pandemic” was very impersonal.

 

[david starling]

The sidereal, I believe has already began.

The Water Bearer.

All of the representatives of an age have a theme to impart.

The Water, is now a large commodity.

It costs on a monthly rate on my utility bills.

It costs any size of bottled.

Water was not a big commodity in the recent past.

The weather changes when water levels change.

Aquarius as the water bearer.

A bearer “ a person whose job is to carry something, or a person who brings a message”

What message or when and why would the representative of Aquarius, have a need to carry out something.

Uranus and Aquarius also represent electricity.

With the changing water levels we are witnessing, larger electrical storms worldwide.

If like “they” say the icebergs are cleaving and melting, then the water levels should be much higher.

Why are the water levels going down instead of up?

Bottles of water don’t evaporate back into the system. They are just stored, in homes and warehouses worldwide.

What message will the bearer gift?

Theories of when it began or will begin are plenty.

Aquarius is impersonal. Now, after the said “pandemic” we are not as social. We have become accustomed to staying home. Not having people over.

The “pandemic” was very impersonal.

Considering the variability of Pisces, and Neptune's lack of firm boundaries, several theories of when the sidereal Age of Pisces ended or will end, could all be correct at once!

 

[Opal]

Considering the variability of Pisces, and Neptune's lack of firm boundaries, several theories of when the sidereal Age of Pisces ended or will end, could all be correct at once!

That totally sounds Neptunian!

 

[MervenMajusa]

Comment removed because not really informed enough about the subject.

 

[david starling]

I'm using an Age Window instead of just a single point - the leading edge of the 30° Window is the marker for the new Age, and the trailing edge marks the background Age. These astrological Ages are just too long to be adequately defined by a single point a!one. When the Window finally converges with the new Age sign, the old foreground Age is over, and it becomes the background Age sign for the next new Age sign. The forefront Age of sidereal Pisces for example, was/is accompanied by sidereal Aries background, which links us to the Past.

After the sidereal Age Window (aka.tropical Aries) has fully converged with sidereal Pisces, (due to retrograde "precession of the equinox"), sidereal Aries will drop off as a background Age sign, and sidereal Pisces then becomes background Age sign to forefront sidereal Aquarius, the new Age sign for the sidereal zodiac.

The sidereal Age Window is coincidental with tropical Aries, but the rest of the tropical signs are of no use to the sidereal zodiac, just tropical Aries as the readymade sidereal Age Window. The leading edge is located at the Vernal Point abbreviated V.P. That's the Age-marker for each forefront, new sidereal Age sign.

 

[leomoon]

Since I consider Zoller a genius, it might sound strange for me to say that his opinion of what the Aquarian Age will be like is the antithesis of its true nature. An analogy as to why that's the case is, he's attempting to describe the results of an alchemical formula without including its key ingredient. His core philosophy regarding astrology limits what he's able to include.

For those who didn't know, Zoller died in January 2020: Looks like he too was Aquarian. He was the only astrologer that I'm aware of who predicted with the coming of an Eclipse the 9-11-2001 Disaster and laid the fault at the feet of "the House of Bush". He mentioned Bin-Laden by name.

Robert Zoller 25 January 1947 - 24 January 2020 - The Astrological Association

On the eve of his 73rd solar return, the highly distinguished American astrologer and teacher Robert Zoller passed away. His death came too late for Journal

www.astrologicalassociation.com

 

[Ancar]

Astrological Association: "Zoller had drawn attention to the total solar eclipse of 11 August 1999 and warned that its effect would last '30 months'."

The 1999 Solar Eclipse hit so many people I know, including myself, very hard - and for many, it did indeed hit the hardest in the 30 months following.

This reverberates personally as the date of that particular Solar Eclipse marked the end of the best career of my life, and in the 30 months that followed, the death my brother, my sister, my best friend and neighbor, my cat, and my mother.

 

[david starling]

Hi Ancar,

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Many claim tornadoes have increased, when that is not true at all.

In the last 100 years, the population centers of the US have shifted and we now have technology we never had before.

Through the 1950s, literally 100s of tornadoes went undetected and unreported each year, because no one saw them, and no one was interested in keeping statistics on tornadoes.

Even after the 1950s, when major US airports had radars that could "see" 25 miles away, 100s of tornadoes still went undetected and unreported.

A farmer in Kansas might go out into his fields and see evidence that a tornado touched down, but he never reports it.

With each passing decade, airport radars get more powerful until they can "see" out 210 miles.

Then in the 1990s the US started building Doppler radar sites covering nearly every square inch of the US.

They can "see" about 95% of tornadoes.

So, in reality, the number of tornadoes is not increasing, but the number of detected and reported tornadoes has increased.

Disease is like that.

1000s of diseases were undetectable until science made it easy to detect them.

Look at mammograms. The ones today are superior to the ones first introduced in the 1970s.

We have a greater ability to detect diseases that previously went undetected or unreported.

With respect to autism, you are apparently totally unaware that the medical definition of autism has changed with the new DSM, and autism is now a wide spectrum of disorders and not confined to a single disorder.

Since the stigma of mental health has been reduced, more people are seeking mental health, more people have access to mental health, and more families are willing to discuss mental health, rather than keep it a secret.

The numbers have not changed, but the reporting has changed.




The hysteria over electromagnetic radiation stems from ignorance.

On the right side of the electromagnetic radiation spectrum are the most powerful energies which are ionizing. That includes hard and soft gamma rays, hard and soft x-rays and Ultra-Violet A, B and C.

In the middle are the pretty colors we see.

To the left are radio waves, which like colors are non-ionizing.

Your cell

I don’t study the tropical ages, David does.

Hey Opal, haven't seen you posting for a while now. Hope you're okay, and just taking a break.

So, how's the tropical Age of Capricorn treatin' ya, eh?

 

[david starling]

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Tetramorph

The Lion, The Eagle, The Bull, Man

It is said that there is four times in the precession that the earth is affected by major destruction, or regeneration, it depends on your perspective.....I prefer to look at it as a regeneration.

Each catastrophe, coincides with an Age of the Precession.

The Lion - Leo - Fire
The Eagle - Scorpio - Water
The Bull - Taurus - Earth
Man - Aquarius - Air

Each age of regeneration, has its own methods.....in Aquarius, man is the responsible for the catastrophe.

Before you get in a panic and go out and buy survival gear, I doubt it will culminate in your lifetime.

As mentioned by Ancar, since industrialization, the increase in cancer, asthma, allergies, ms, and other petro chemical diseases are on the rise. Allergies to scent are now over 40% of the population.

Man - Aquarius - Air

We are starting to feel it, the negative side, an inability to breath the air, we are feeling industrial disease created by Man.

Aquarius is the Water Bearer. An interesting name for an Air Sign. Think of why we might need a water bearer. Water is now a commodity. We buy bottled water. We are charged for water coming into our home and for water leaving our home. Water is caged in warehouses. And the severity of our earth's atmosphere is getting more severe.

As Jesus is the representative of the Age of Pisces, The fisher of men.....the Age of Aquarius will require a representative, The Water Bearer, an Air sign.......our water is polluted, and caged.......will the representative set it free..........

Food for thought......

The 30° Age Window is a necessary part of describing the ,Astrological Ages. For example, Jesus representing the Age of Pisces is against war, but this Age has been one of almost constant warfare. The Age Window includes Aries as background Age-sign, which brings in Mars as an important influence. It mirrors reality - Ages overlap. The effects of an Age don't just vanish once the next new Age begins. In effect, it's the Age of sidereal Pisces/Aries followed by the Age of sidereal Aquarius/Pisces.

So, once the 30° Age Window has converged with the 30° sidereal sign Pisces, the Age of "Pisces/Aries" will have ended and the Age of "Aquarius/Pisces" will have begun. Since the Age-Marker is the leading point of the Age Window as the new Age progresses, it's much easier to call it by the name of the forefront Age-sign alone, as long as we realize the past is in the mix.

 

[david starling]

Uran is NOT about inventions (including electricity). It did take the invention of the telescope to reveal that the first planet beyond Saturn was a planet instead of a fixed star.
It is visible without a telescope, but is orbiting too slowly and it's too faint to distinguish from a faint star. The telescope, like many other inventions was invented around the time of the Renaissance, 1500 - 1700. Uran was discovered in 1781.This tropical, Saturn - ruled, materialistic Earth - sign Age is EXTREMELY innovative, being a Cardinal - sign Age. It was innovative and inventive long BEFORE Uran was recognized as a planet.

Btw, these [ ] are not symbolic of lightning bolts. They're about Mind - Waves. And, Uran rules astrology, not electronics.

 

[Bjorkstrand]

rubbish we are still in pisces. Can't you tell.

 

[david starling]

rubbish we are still in pisces. Can't you tell.

The problem is, we need to explain the extreme attention paid to Time, with everything dated and timed, time zones, we speak of Decades, Centuries and Millennia. We have clocks that are accurate to a millionth of a second.

That wouldn't have been a development of the Age of Pisces. It's a time-ruled Age, which is clear evidence of Saturn/Chronos, not Jupiter or Neptune. Digital technology isn't Piscean either.

I'm using the tropical Age of Capricorn, which easily explains Saturn as Age-ruler; AND, the sidereal Age of Pisces, stlll running simultaneously - Goatfish and Fishes. Two types of Precession, for tropical, Precession of the Perihelion; and, for sidereal, Precession of the Equinox.

 

[david starling]

I also have Mars in Pisces, but Neptune passed it a couple of years ago. Now, Nep is hangin g around my Ascendant.

According to David, Aquarian influences will be felt as early as the perihelion of the year 2047 (true age marker), but the mean one will come to  [tropical] Aquarius in 2149.

A strange coincidence - tropical astrologers have been intuitively guessing at the start of the sidereal Aquarian Age for over a Century, with lots of different dates.

But Robert Hand chose a very simple numerical way, using our world-wide dating system, which begins with the Year 1.

The length of time for the sidereal, precessional movement of 30 degrees has been calculated by modern astronomers as being 2148 seasonal years.

Starting with the Year 1, (and no Year 0) for the sidereal Age of Pisces, 2148 years added to the Year 1 = 2149 for the start of the sidereal Age of Aquarius.



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[Opal]

Hey Opal, haven't seen you posting for a while now. Hope you're okay, and just taking a break.

So, how's the tropical Age of Capricorn treatin' ya, eh?

I got home at 10:30pm again. Summertime I am not here much. Need to eat, shower and sleep. Right now, I woke in the middle of the night, and will go back to sleep shortly, before the dawn.

 

[david starling]

I'm more convinced than ever that there are direct- tropical precessional Ages using Earth's Perihelion. The Cardinal-sign, Earth-sign Age of Capricorn, which is innovative and materialistic, is also Time-ruled, which is indicative of Saturnian rulership.

There's a sequence of four Ages that fit the timeline of History. And there's very little uncertainty about the dates.

~4900 B.C. to 3100 B.C. - Cardinal-sign Age of , most representative, Tigris Euphrates Valley, Age-ruler, Inanna - Ishtar - Venus

~3100 B.C. to 1350 B.C. - Fixed-sign Age of , most representative, ancient Egypt, Age-ruler, Osirus (Pluto)

~1350 B.C. to 400 A.D. - Mutable-sign Age of , most representative, Greco-Romans, Age-ruler Zeus/Jupiter, + Apollo, god of archery

~ 400 A.D. to 2149 A.D. - Cardinal-sign Age of , most representative, Western Europe & the U.S.A., Age-ruler, Saturn (as linear-Time)

Timing for most significant developments:

For Cardinal-sign Ages, last decant (~1550 to 2150 A.D.)*
For Fixed-sign Ages, first decant (~ 3100 to 2500 B.C.)
For Mutable-sign Ages middle decant (~ 750 to150 B.C.)

* The most obvious thing is a break with the Past, due to Earth-sign Age materialism and the extreme technological developments of this tropical Cardinal-sign Age of Capricorn. Astrology bridges the gap.