Ukraine.

[conspiracy theorist]

There seems to be a concerted effort to blame President Biden (who has Mars in ) for a potential nuclear war, with an expectation that (Mars in )Trump will find a way to diffuse the situation.

I'd say, it's ENTIRELY up to Putin - but is he really that crazy?

Don't forget Putin (Mars in )

 

[Cap]

Who? Nostradamus? Since when has he ever been right about anything?
Anyone who's ever been right, yet?

A lot of people think the Apocalypse of John of Patmos is prophecy. It isn't, and was never intended to be. Watch Dan McClellan's videos or read Elaine Pagels' Revelations: Visions, Prophecy & Politics in the Book of Revelation regarding that issue.

Nah, Nostradamus is just BS.
Paisios, Greek saint from the past century, got many things right, dissolution of Soviet Union, war in Yugoslavia, Brexit...
There are others too...

 

[david starling]

In August of 1945 they were NOT in opposition. Two nuclear weapons were used in strikes on Japan, as we all remember.
On the 6th and 9th of that month Mars and Pluto were NOT in aspect!

What about the nuclear war scare in the 1960s, called the "Cuban Missile Crisis"?

Any significant Mars/Pluto aspect?

 

[Cap]

In August of 1945 they were NOT in opposition. Two nuclear weapons were used in strikes on Japan, as we all remember.
On the 6th and 9th of that month Mars and Pluto were NOT in aspect!

According to my software Mars was in sextile with Pluto (same degree on the 6th August)

 

[david starling]

What about the nuclear war scare in the 1960s, called the "Cuban Missile Crisis"?

Any significant Mars/Pluto aspect?

This event was more like now than the attacks on Japan.

 

[Cap]

Nah, Nostradamus is just BS.
Paisios, Greek saint from the past century, got many things right, dissolution of Soviet Union, war in Yugoslavia, Brexit...
There are others too...

 

[david starling]

Maybe it's being ARRANGED so that it could APPEAR that Trump stepped in and saved the world from a nuclear war - we'd never hear the end of his bragging about THAT!

 

[Cap]

Maybe it's being ARRANGED so that it could APPEAR that Trump stepped in and saved the world from a nuclear war - we'd never hear the end of his bragging about THAT!

IMO, Ukraine war is largely over by now. There's no point going nuclear over Ukraine.
But, the events in the Middle East they describe in the prophecies, that will involve all the big players, US, China, Russia...

 

[FraterAC]

What about the nuclear war scare in the 1960s, called the "Cuban Missile Crisis"?

Any significant Mars/Pluto aspect?

Between October 16 - 28, 1962 There were no longitudinal aspects between Mars and Pluto, although they were parallel.
Neptune and Pluto were sextile, which they were for decades. Pluto made no other close aspects.

 

[FraterAC]

Maybe it's being ARRANGED so that it could APPEAR that Trump stepped in and saved the world from a nuclear war - we'd never hear the end of his bragging about THAT!

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize, like Obama got in 2009. Eaten up by jealousy over that.
If he sells Ukraine out, he may be able to stop the war -- temporarily. If two guys are fighting and you handcuff one of them, you will most likely stop the fight. Not exactly making peace, though.

 

[david starling]

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize, like Obama got in 2009. Eaten up by jealousy over that.
If he sells Ukraine out, he may be able to stop the war -- temporarily. If two guys are fighting and you handcuff one of them, you will most likely stop the fight. Not exactly making peace, though.

Problem for Trump is that he said "everyone" would be satisfied by the terms of the "peace-accord".

 

[david starling]

He wants a Nobel Peace Prize, like Obama got in 2009. Eaten up by jealousy over that.
If he sells Ukraine out, he may be able to stop the war -- temporarily. If two guys are fighting and you handcuff one of them, you will most likely stop the fight. Not exactly making peace, though.

It's a bizarre war, with the bully claiming to be the innocent, helpless victim, and threatens nuclear war if anyone tries to help the real victim.

 

[Cap]

It's a bizarre war, with the bully claiming to be the innocent, helpless victim, and threatens nuclear war if anyone tries to help the real victim.

Nonsense. It's a proxy war against Russia, from the start in 2014 with geopolitical goals for the West. Why would anyone spend hundreds of billions on Ukraine if he doesn't have a lot at stake geopolitically?

Suppose Botswana and Zimbabwe went to war against each other, do you think US and all of western Europe would spend hundreds of billions in weapons on one of those countries? Of course not. They don't care.

But say, in case of China's dispute with its runaway territory Taiwan, they would spend all that enormous money once again, just like on Ukraine, because China is geopolitical rival, just like Russia.

 

[david starling]

As far as Saturn as the overriding Age-ruler, it's completely impersonal and amoral - time will march on as usual, nuclear war or not.

Maybe it's the implacable, amoral, impersonality that frightened the Ancient astrologers into describing Saturn as "Malefic".

 

[david starling]

Nonsense. It's a proxy war against Russia, from the start in 2014 with geopolitical goals for the West. Why would anyone spend hundreds of billions on Ukraine if he doesn't have a lot at stake geopolitically?

Suppose Botswana and Zimbabwe went to war against each other, do you think US and all of western Europe would spend hundreds of billions in weapons on one of those countries? Of course not. They don't care.

But say, in case of China's dispute with its runaway territory Taiwan, they would spend all that enormous money once again, just like on Ukraine, because China is geopolitical rival, just like Russia.

You just admitted that Russia is invulnerable to conventional attack. It's had nothing to fear from NATO. That was just the bully playing the victim.

 

[Cap]

You just admitted that Russia is invulnerable to conventional attack. It's had nothing to fear from NATO. That was just the bully playing the victim.

Not an inch to the east. Can you explain what North Atlantic Alliance is doing that far away from Atlantic?

 

[FraterAC]

It's a proxy war against Russia

Russia invaded Ukraine! How does that make this a proxy war from the West?
It's been admitted repeatedly, and there is no argument against it (except in Kremlin propaganda), by Putin himself, that his wildest weird dream is to put the Soviet Union (or better still the Russian Empire) together again. For that reason, he has invaded and tried to annex Ukraine in 2014 and 2022. A campaign of imperialist aggression, totally unprovoked militarily, by Ukraine or the West.
All the RF apologists in the world can't change that.

 

[FraterAC]

the bully playing the victim

Global gaslighting to the extreme.

 

[FraterAC]

Problem for Trump is that he said "everyone" would be satisfied by the terms of the "peace-accord".

He said everyone was going to love his healthcare program (coming in "just a couple of weeks") too.
But, no.

 

[FraterAC]

Can you explain what North Atlantic Alliance is doing that far away from Atlantic?

Admitting countries afraid of Russian imperialism?
Former WARPAC countries, they know who they're dealing with.