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FraterAC said:
Russia invaded Ukraine! How does that make this a proxy war from the West?
It's been admitted repeatedly, and there is no argument against it (except in Kremlin propaganda), by Putin himself, that his wildest weird dream is to put the Soviet Union (or better still the Russian Empire) together again. For that reason, he has invaded and tried to annex Ukraine in 2014 and 2022. A campaign of imperialist aggression, totally unprovoked militarily, by Ukraine or the West.
All the RF apologists in the world can't change that.
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So, in reverse situation, if Russia orchestrated a coup in Mexico, and started to arm and finance Mexicans who certainly have some old territorial disputes with US, you think US would be completely comfortable with that situation?
And say, US intervenes in Mexico and Russian soldiers start to fire missiles from Mexico into US territory, you think US would not be pissed at Russia in that case?
 
Russia has no legitimate territorial disputes with Ukraine, which has been an independent sovereign country separate from the USSR/RF since 1991. America did not engineer a coup in Ukraine. NATO did not arm Ukraine before the Russian invasion (Ukraine still used Soviet small arms, artillery, and aircraft). Americans and NATO soldiers are not firing missiles into Russia.
Other than that...?
 
FraterAC said:
Russia has no legitimate territorial disputes with Ukraine, which has been an independent sovereign country separate from the USSR/RF since 1991. America did not engineer a coup in Ukraine. NATO did not arm Ukraine before the Russian invasion (Ukraine still used Soviet small arms, artillery, and aircraft). Americans and NATO soldiers are not firing missiles into Russia.
Other than that...?
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LOL
US spent 5 billion before 2014, in order to make color revolution happen, by admission of Nuland.
Then spent billions before 2022 to arm Nazis in Ukraine, by admission of Merkel.
And only then US spent hundreds of billions in a PROXY WAR against Russia, the concept described in paper by Soros. Soros advocated that it is best to find idiots in Eastern Europe who will die in proxy wars for the West while westerners should not participate directly because the public in western countries is very sensitive to military casualties.
 
Cap said:
LOL
US spent 5 billion before 2014, in order to make color revolution happen, by admission of Nuland.
Then spent billions before 2022 to arm Nazis in Ukraine, by admission of Merkel.
And only then US spent hundreds of billions in a PROXY WAR against Russia, the concept described in paper by Soros. Soros advocated that it is best to find idiots in Eastern Europe who will die in proxy wars for the West while westerners should not participate directly because the public in western countries is very sensitive to military casualties.
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NONE of that compromised Ukraine's Internationally recognized national Sovereignty, as Putinganda would have it.

And, according to Germany, Putin had his OWN Nazi-brigades engaged in the invasion of Ukraine.
 
Let's not forget who had a military alliance with, and initially supported, the Nazi regime.
Stalin and the USSR.
Until Hitler attacked him, Stalin was Hitler's buddy.
 
david starling said:
NONE of that compromised Ukraine's Internationally recognized national Sovereignty, as Putinganda would have it.

And, according to Germany, Putin had his OWN Nazi-brigades engaged in the invasion of Ukraine.
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Days of US doing whatever it wants, commanding and bossing the world, are over. Before taking things to military level Russia has exhausted all diplomatic means, pleading for decades "NATO stop expanding, stop with murder in Donbas, stop militarizing Ukraine".

Unfortunately, force is the only language US understands. And guess what, if US keeps insisting, it will end with Russian boots in Washington, I don't have a slightest doubt about this. So it would be wise for the West to find a way to peacefully coexist with others and drop the hegemon mindset.
 
FraterAC said:
Very highly unlikely.
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Trust me, you don't want to fight against Russians. Russians are always two steps ahead, very capable, very brave.
US is no match for Russia and China combined. The only thing that prevents US military defeat are nukes. But what if nukes fail to take off for some reason, EMP or whatever? What if thousands of US aircraft fail to take off due to EMP? Never underestimate Russians, Napoleon and Hitler learned this the hard way.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not cheering for this, that would mean WW3. But if it comes to that then this is how it will end.
 
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A new report by the Washington Post claimed that
Ukraine PROXY WAR may
negotiate with Russia once President-elect Donald Trump assumes office.
The WaPo report citing anonymous sources further claimed
that Kyiv may have to give up territory
as it is in its weakest position in nearly three years :)
Watch.
 
FraterAC said:
Russia has no legitimate territorial disputes with Ukraine, which has been an independent sovereign country separate from the USSR/RF since 1991. America did not engineer a coup in Ukraine. NATO did not arm Ukraine before the Russian invasion (Ukraine still used Soviet small arms, artillery, and aircraft). Americans and NATO soldiers are not firing missiles into Russia.
Other than that...?
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Except that NATO made promises to Russia that Ukraine would NEVER be part of their institution if Russia gave up all the nuclear missiles they had in Ukraine; Ukraine has always been part of greater Russia, that's why the majority in Crimea + in the eastern regions speak Russian as their first language + consider themselves Russians + not Ukrainians. They voted 90% or higher during fair + free elections to be part of Russia homeland.

NATO or I should say the Anglo/American alliance have always wanted to defeat Russia + take over the country. Not only because Russia is a nuclear power + a threat to their world hegemony but because they want to march in + have their corporations like BlackRock (which owns Ukraine now) installed to rob Russia of her vast resources.

The backlash against Ukraine began when the truth about the coup in 2014 was able to be posted on social media platforms like X.
People got a more detailed explanation of why Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine; it didn't happen without cause. Russia has been maligned + very badly treated by the U.S. (using NATO as their defense) + Putin has had enough. Russia must be + will be protected from the global mafia.
 
Cap said:
What a timing! Finland and Sweden are like people who managed to board Titanic in the last minute.
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Here is the full posting which is 100% accurate.

Russia didn't move up onto NATO's borders. NATO moved up onto Russias. Ukraine was the final straw. Now, many here in Russia believe that Russia will now have to push all the way to NATO's borders with Ukraine You reap as you sow.




 
david starling said:
The BIG question is, what's the Trump administration's plan for ending the Ukraine War in just 24 hours after Inauguration?
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Trump has not stated his plans but it's obvious to anyone what cutting off funding + military weapons to Ukraine will end the conflict;
Ukraine can't survive without U.S. billions. Cut the money off + Ukraine will fold like a wet piece of paper.

This is why Biden is trying to get billions more sent to Ukraine. Blinken, Sullivan + the other global mafia tools (Biden is irrelevant as he's too mentally incapacitated to even know what year it is) are now demanding that 24 BILLION be sent to Ukraine before Trump is sworn into office.

They want to keep escalating it.
 
david starling said:
Trump will be held accountable. He made too many promises about what he could do if we just gave him the chance.
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How can Trump be held accountable? This is gaslighting Trump to the extreme.

Who was in power when the C_A did the coup in 2014? (It was President Obama)
Who was in power when Russian invaded Ukraine? (It was President Biden).

Trump has always been against the needless wars + regime changes, even as a civilian. He is the only potus to never initiate a war; he did what the global mafia hated which is to talk about peace + stopping the killing on all sides. He has categorically promised to END ALL FUNDING to UKRAINE on day 1.

This is the latest statement Trump made on his account + put out a video. Here is the transcript.



President Trump Announces Plan to Stop the America Last Warmongers and Globalists:


World War III has never been closer than it is right now. We need to clean house of all of the warmongers + America-Last globalists in the Deep State, the Pentagon, the State Department, + the national security industrial complex. One of the reasons I was the only president in generations who didn’t start a war is that I was the only president who rejected the catastrophic advice of many of Washington’s Generals, bureaucrats, + the so-called diplomats who only know how to get us into conflict, but they don’t know how to get us out. For decades, we’ve had the very same people, such as Victoria Nuland + many others just like her, obsessed with pushing Ukraine toward NATO, not to mention the State Department’s support for uprisings in Ukraine. These people have been seeking confrontation for a long time, much like the case in Iraq and other parts of the world, and now, we’re teetering on the brink of World War III.

The conflict in Ukraine is very dangerous, explosive, + escalating by the day. Biden's weakness and incompetence have brought us to the brink of nuclear war. It's far past the time for all parties involved to pursue a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine before this horrific catastrophe spirals out of control and leads to World War III. We must end this ridiculous war and demand peace in Ukraine now before it gets worse.










 
JupiterinCap said:
Trump has not stated his plans but it's obvious to anyone what cutting off funding + military weapons to Ukraine will end the conflict;
Ukraine can't survive without U.S. billions. Cut the money off + Ukraine will fold like a wet piece of paper.

This is why Biden is trying to get billions more sent to Ukraine. Blinken, Sullivan + the other global mafia tools (Biden is irrelevant as he's too mentally incapacitated to even know what year it is) are now demanding that 24 BILLION be sent to Ukraine before Trump is sworn into office.

They want to keep escalating it.
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Who's running the show, if Biden's too out of it to make decisions?

It's the weapons the U.S. is sending that cost Billion$, almost all for the Military Industry, which also helps the U.S. economy. Stopping that money right away could trigger a mild recession.

Is Trump responsible for the Covid-19 epidemic? It happened on his watch, severely damaging the U.S. economy? And that lousy "vaccine" he paid to have developed with NO liability for the pharmaceutical companies?

No wonder there was a massive, record-breaking voter registration and voter turnout in 2020! More than half the voting citizens wanted him OUT-of-there! This year, Covid forgotten, he won a modest victory over very weak opponent.

He's made promises - he's got all 3 branches of government on his side - NO excuses for failures.
 
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