WITH THE UPCOMING SATURN/NEPTUNE CONJUNCTION SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT BRAZIL

[John Thompson]

I posted this earlier, after trying to explain that Saturn/Neptune cycles are essentially a politically left wing cycle,and believe we should be looking at Brazil in relation to the upcoming Saturn/Neptune cycle.

Hello John Thompson,

you will have probably noticed that in July 2025 Saturn and Neptune are approaching respectively at 1°55' 50.6'' and 2°10'24.5" Aries and that on February 20, 2026 they will be in conjunction at 0°45'30.2" Aries. We can think of the formation of distinct global blocks. We should have more details in July 2025...

Ecliptique.

I don't think we need to wait that long. The cycle chart shows the midpoints of Uranus/Pluto conjunct Saturn/Neptune at 00 Aries 56. The Sun is at the midpoints of the conjunction with Pluto. Set the cycle on ACG, and it shows the conjunction on the MC throughout Brazil; this can show a sudden dissolution of the government popularity and or President. Although Brazil is a democracy, their President Lula da Silva is very far left in his politics, openly embraces China's claims over Taiwan, and also endorses Iran [he was a good friend of Fidel Castro]. The cycle connects to progressed Mars of their constitution, with the progressed Moon on the descendant of the cycle. Their Independence chart shows Pluto at 00 Aries and square to Uranus/Neptune. The discovery chart by the Portuguese Pedro Alvares Cabral on 22 April 1500 shows Uranus at 29 Virgo 45 [its antiscion being 00 Aries 14], whilst Pluto is at 27 Aquarius 56, well within a degree of the solar eclipse three days prior to the cycle commencing.
Don't get me wrong, apparently he has made good headway in protecting/policing the Amazon rainforest [although he's taken millions from both the US and France to do it] Today he is hosting the latest G20 summit in Rio de Janerio. 2026 is also an election year in Brazil. This could cause real chaos on the world stage.
Sorry, this should probably be moved to another thread.

 

[katydid]

Brazil is a fascinating country. Very beautiful, very lively and wonderful vibrant people. Yet so much corruption and lately a lot of brutal violence.

Can Saturn/Neptune heal some of that by bring order to chaos?

 

[John Thompson]

Brazil is a fascinating country. Very beautiful, very lively and wonderful vibrant people. Yet so much corruption and lately a lot of brutal violence.

Can Saturn/Neptune heal some of that by bring order to chaos?

I really hope so, for I believe in many respects they hold the key to much of the worlds issues if only they recognise the unique position that they hold. Environmentally they need help from us all, and yet they also have a far left government that can understand our communist neighbours also; they are still a democracy so hopefully will come through.

 

[leomoon]

I found a few Astro charts for Brazil - with Aquarius Rising from 1822 although this one has 0 Pisces rising Quite a different when we count the degrees apart -
(perhaps a different location) than the other on Astrodienst -

Astrological foundation chart for Brazil calculated for the Declaration of Independence on 7 September 1822 at 16:43 in Ipiranga,

 

[leomoon]

Brazil background chart with the 0 deg.Pisces and different location

https://astrologicalworldmap.com/2018/10/08/brazil-and-its-capital-brasilia-in-astrology/

Astrodienst: Rodden Rated "A"

Source Notes​

Brazilian declaration of independence by Dom Pedro I: Borges quotes the time used by the majority of Brazilian astrologers though some use 16:30.
Gives Aquarius Rising: 22degrees https://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi...UF1jIuS-4D24p91GMuVYVHH7vZcNEUBuVvOjltP6TSSdw

 

[leomoon]

President Lula de Silva:

Lula da Silva - Birth Chart, Horoscope | Astro-Seek.com

www.Astro-Seek.com - Seek and meet people born on the same date as you

www.astro-seek.com

 

[John Thompson]

1988 constitution. Note the 1822 Sun is on the descendant here, bringing an awareness/spotlight on what independence has so far bought to the country.

Mundane charts with double bodied angles are not good with a history of coalition governments. Corruption and manipulative undercurrents are always present in such situations. The middle of the mutable signs are probably one of the most challenging, for their antiscions are always semi-sextile quincunx in relationship. Saturn/Neptune in Aries with the midpoints of Uranus/Pluto can show very devastating u-turns if not handled properly. Da Silva is old, and if I remember rightly has already had a brain haemorrhage [Aries]. I may not agree particularly with his politics, and I'm no head-banger on the environment, but believe the Brazilians are to be in a unique position as international negotiators in the not too distant future if they only realise it. Note Mars retrograde in ascendant [ ruler of 2nd of finance and value systems, and 9th of foreign affairs and the global perspective].

 

[leomoon]

I was wondering which house symbolizes the Amazon and the rainforest itself.


(Bloomberg) -- Joe Biden announced new conservation efforts and funding as he became the first sitting US president to visit the Amazon region, touring part of a rainforest nature preserve and meeting with local environmental activists.

With his time in the White House ending in January, Biden said he’s leaving President-elect Donald Trump and the US a “strong foundation to build on, if they choose to do so.”
“It’s true, some may seek to deny or delay the clean energy revolution that is underway in America,” he said in Manaus, Brazil, on Sunday. “But nobody, nobody can reverse it.”

New initiatives announced by Biden included $50 million for the Amazon Fund, doubling the US contribution, and a $37.5 million loan from the Development Finance Corp. to support the planting of native trees on degraded grasslands in Brazil.

Photo and rest of article here:

MSN

Note: The Republican Party officially as with trump does not believe in Climate Change - as the Democrats do and likely will not support it any further.

 

[John Thompson]

I was wondering which house symbolizes the Amazon and the rainforest itself.


(Bloomberg) -- Joe Biden announced new conservation efforts and funding as he became the first sitting US president to visit the Amazon region, touring part of a rainforest nature preserve and meeting with local environmental activists.

With his time in the White House ending in January, Biden said he’s leaving President-elect Donald Trump and the US a “strong foundation to build on, if they choose to do so.”
“It’s true, some may seek to deny or delay the clean energy revolution that is underway in America,” he said in Manaus, Brazil, on Sunday. “But nobody, nobody can reverse it.”

New initiatives announced by Biden included $50 million for the Amazon Fund, doubling the US contribution, and a $37.5 million loan from the Development Finance Corp. to support the planting of native trees on degraded grasslands in Brazil.

Photo and rest of article here:

MSN

Note: The Republican Party officially as with trump does not believe in Climate Change - as the Democrats do and likely will not support it any further.

The Amazon in terms of houses comes from the 4th; it's resources from the 5th. Wood and its growth generally is a Capricorn issue.

 

[John Thompson]

Only just seen this.

Brazil police accuse ex-President Bolsonaro of involvement in coup attempt

Police accuse Jair Bolsonaro and several former officials of involvement in plot after 2022 election defeat.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[leomoon]

Only just seen this.

Brazil police accuse ex-President Bolsonaro of involvement in coup attempt

Police accuse Jair Bolsonaro and several former officials of involvement in plot after 2022 election defeat.

www.aljazeera.com

But no surprise here. GEE, I wonder where he got these ideas, considering the BBC News said he went straight to Florida after the Elections.

Brazil's Supreme Electoral Court has voted 5-2 to bar ex-president Jair Bolsonaro from running for office for eight years.
Mr Bolsonaro was found guilty of abusing his power ahead of last year's presidential poll.
He had been accused of undermining Brazilian democracy by falsely claiming that the electronic ballots used were vulnerable to hacking and fraud.

Eight-year election ban for Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro - BBC​

Mr Bolsonaro never publicly acknowledged his defeat and left Brazil for Florida two days before Lula was sworn in as president. His supporters, who refused to accept the outcome of the

Eight-year election ban for Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro

Ex-president Jair Bolsonaro is barred from running for office by the top electoral court.

www.bbc.com