What's behind the unrest in the UK? (and in Bangladesh)

[John Thompson]

Thanks @John Thompson for the correction!

The house cusps are exactly the same, but I'll post the correct chart again with the Solar Eclipse transits:

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Just like to say that some like to use Geodectic equivalents, which in this case changes the sign on the MC. All political charts in Britain are cast for Westminster unless relocated to the devolved governments.

 

[Nexus7]

Firstly I don't argue politics, essentially I am a mundane astrologer so try to keep politically neutral. Kier Starmer has decided to try and undo Brexit which will cost God knows how much. He is giving 70-90,000 boat people an amnesty all of which take priority for housing over homeless Brits. He is about to sell out our fishermen who have just invested countless millions for a 'better' deal with the EU; it goes on and on. None can fathom British politics properly without a full understanding of the Uranus/Neptune cycle, just as we can't fathom the masses of money without a full understanding og the Jupiter/Pluto cycle. The three main British political parties all resonate to the Uranus/Neptune cycle; the Conservatives have the square, Labour have the opposition and the Liberal Democrats the conjunction. Note that in the functioning chart of the EU, the Uranus/Neptune conjunction is the closest aspect of the entire chart. This conjunction is on the DESC of the conservative party; the point of negotiation and open enemies. This conjunction was quincunx Labours Pluto [and their prog Sun]; adjustments to be made. But it was also quincunx/semi sextile to their MC/IC axis; they don't know what to do with it. Their Jupiter in Taurus in the 12th now has transiting Uranus conjunct and in hard aspect to that of the triple conjunction Sun/Jupiter/Pluto in the chart of the Bank of England. The political Jupiter/Saturn cycle is now at its waxing square, with Jupiter simultaneously making sesquiquadrate aspect to Pluto and all knocking on the door of the Labour party progressed Sun. Their popularity is dropping by the day. Please find the Conservative Party chart.View attachment 113500

Brexit has already cost the UK trillions. I heard Starmer wanted to revise what he saw as Johnson's botched deal.

Obviously the astrology is indeed the most important consideration, but I am sure it must be very difficult to be truly unbiased.

Thanks for posting the Tory Party chart, which looks to my eye to be appropriate in its way. I am sure mundane astrology must quickly get hugely complex, with so many charts to check and compare.

 

[John Thompson]

Brexit has already cost the UK trillions. I heard Starmer wanted to revise what he saw as Johnson's botched deal.

Obviously the astrology is indeed the most important consideration, it I am sure it must be very difficult to be truly unbiasedl.

Thanks for posting the Tory Party chart, which looks to my eye to be appropriate in its way. I am sue mundane astrology must quickly get hugely complex, with so many charts to check and compare.

Thanks for this Nexus7. In many respects I think we need to have a very good memory to practice mundane. This post has actually inspired me to review several charts I have which can be used for the City of London [I think there's enough material for a book to be honest], but my focus completely disregards the political aspect of London life. A lot of work, but hoping to post these findings soon.

 

[PenguinTrauma]

It's a South Node solar eclipse, so something or someone may even be eclipsed out. Will it be Starmer himself that is eclipsed out. Maybe not, he's far too new on the scene, so it doesn't fit in with South Node themes.

Maybe some long standing laws, policies, justice systems, some of the current legal systems (especially old laws that have served their purpose - South Node) being eclipsed out? 9th house ruler, Mercury Libra conjunct the Eclipse, so quite likely.

It may not be received well, or there may be a backlash, given the Eclipse squares the Cancer Moon (public). The ruler of the Eclipse, Venus is in detriment in Scorpio, so it may even be perceived as ruthless.

And here we are. Starmer has today announced that the Autumn Budget will be "painful" and with some very unpopular choices to be made - scheduled for 30th October, after the South Node Eclipse.

Now looks certain that there may be a backlash, it's already not being received well. Ruthless indeed.

The Autumn Budget day looks quite dicey indeed, it really will come as a shock. Mercury Scorpio in 2nd house of finances, only 1° away in opposition to Uranus Taurus in 8th house of taxes, debts. The bearer of bad news.

Furthermore, we will see an applying opposition from Mars Cancer, to Pluto Capricorn. 4th and 10th houses.

Both Mars and Pluto being the ruler of the 2nd house, and both planets at a critical degree of 29, Mars approaching that Anaretic degree.

Mars ruling cuts, severances, opposite Pluto which is about elimination, in its last gasp of Capricorn, so it could be about cutting away the old rules, destroying the old structures (maybe left behind by the Tories? Pluto has been in Capricorn for the bulk of their leadership).

But, it may be met with tremendous resistance as Pluto tries to cling to power in Capricorn, with a death grip. Some people will not want the old structures gone.

Rather intriguing to see the Moon will conjunct the South Node Libra on the same day. Emphasising the need to keep certain things as they are (those old power structures).

Might be a harsh winter this year.

 

[PenguinTrauma]

The chart with transits for 30th October

 

[John Thompson]

And here we are. Starmer has today announced that the Autumn Budget will be "painful" and with some very unpopular choices to be made - scheduled for 30th October, after the South Node Eclipse.

Now looks certain that there may be a backlash, it's already not being received well. Ruthless indeed.

The Autumn Budget day looks quite dicey indeed, it really will come as a shock. Mercury Scorpio in 2nd house of finances, only 1° away in opposition to Uranus Taurus in 8th house of taxes, debts. The bearer of bad news.

Furthermore, we will see an applying opposition from Mars Cancer, to Pluto Capricorn. 4th and 10th houses.

Both Mars and Pluto being the ruler of the 2nd house, and both planets at a critical degree of 29, Mars approaching that Anaretic degree.

Mars ruling cuts, severances, opposite Pluto which is about elimination, in its last gasp of Capricorn, so it could be about cutting away the old rules, destroying the old structures (maybe left behind by the Tories? Pluto has been in Capricorn for the bulk of their leadership).

But, it may be met with tremendous resistance as Pluto tries to cling to power in Capricorn, with a death grip. Some people will not want the old structures gone.

Rather intriguing to see the Moon will conjunct the South Node Libra on the same day. Emphasising the need to keep certain things as they are (those old power structures).

Might be a harsh winter this year.

Hi PenguinTrauma. I'm just about to go away for a few days so have no time for the minute. I did post the chart of the Labour party, and think you'll find much by progressions [I use naibod in RA]. It looks at first glace that Starmer is in for a big backlash from his own party/members.
;enjoyed your writing. P Moon at P SN and conjunct Chiron, P ASC square Moon natal opposite Mars Natal, with transit SN on natal Moon, Transit Jupiter conjunct natal Pluto = masses of Money, transit Mercury/Uranus opposition across natal 6th/12th, pensioners but also military/public services; hope this helps.

 

[Nexus7]

And here we are. Starmer has today announced that the Autumn Budget will be "painful" and with some very unpopular choices to be made - scheduled for 30th October, after the South Node Eclipse.

Now looks certain that there may be a backlash, it's already not being received well. Ruthless indeed.

The Autumn Budget day looks quite dicey indeed, it really will come as a shock. Mercury Scorpio in 2nd house of finances, only 1° away in opposition to Uranus Taurus in 8th house of taxes, debts. The bearer of bad news.

Furthermore, we will see an applying opposition from Mars Cancer, to Pluto Capricorn. 4th and 10th houses.

Both Mars and Pluto being the ruler of the 2nd house, and both planets at a critical degree of 29, Mars approaching that Anaretic degree.

Mars ruling cuts, severances, opposite Pluto which is about elimination, in its last gasp of Capricorn, so it could be about cutting away the old rules, destroying the old structures (maybe left behind by the Tories? Pluto has been in Capricorn for the bulk of their leadership).

But, it may be met with tremendous resistance as Pluto tries to cling to power in Capricorn, with a death grip. Some people will not want the old structures gone.

Rather intriguing to see the Moon will conjunct the South Node Libra on the same day. Emphasising the need to keep certain things as they are (those old power structures).

Might be a harsh winter this year.

More austerity then. How imaginative!
But with the opposition from Uranus. It could backlash. I just saw John Thompson's post, great minds and all that. Does that Scorpio Mercury conjoin that Scorpio-heavy chart for the Tories?

 

[John Thompson]

More austerity then. How imaginative!
But with the opposition from Uranus. It could backlash. I just saw John Thompson's post, great minds and all that. Does that Scorpio Mercury conjoin that Scorpio-heavy chart for the Tories?

Before I go away for a few days. I just hope the Mercury opposite Uranus doesn't mean too much input from Royalty; they should keep their noses out of politics, [the 1689 chart decrees this] and yet these are degrees related specifically to British Royalty. Will Sir Kier Starmer make more ramifications about the House of Lords?; He's known for not liking this part of the British system.

 

[PenguinTrauma]

Personally, I don’t think there is truth to what a majority of conspiracies claim. But where I do think there is truth, is that there are organisations of people who feed specific kinds of material to the masses, with the intention of manipulating the collective beliefs around what reality is, because this is the way to psychologically disempower and disarm the people. If they already believe they’ve lost, then there is no war to be won, because apparently it has already been won.

This!! You've summed up perfectly what is going on. I do believe that Neptune Pisces at 29° and conjunct Scheat has a lot to do with it as well.

I'm finding in general society, that if you don't subscribe to the current conspiracy beliefs, or if you call BS on them, you are seen as an outsider, almost like a social pariah, outcasted for apparently being "ignorant" of the world around you. They accuse you of being " brainwashed" when, ironically, it's clearly them who are.

There is usually a small grain of truth to them, only a tiny number have turned out to be true, but it is at a grain-of-sand level. The bulk of it I feel tends to be amplified scaremongering to control the masses. And it's working.

 

[Humanitarian]

Scheat is not a good star at all, as it has a Martian nature, according to Ptolemy (Mars is a malefic), and so the Neptune-Scheat conjunction transit amplifies people's blind beliefs and make people to spread them to all over the world. Neptune can be a planet which helps you see without the veil blocking you, but it also blinds your mind, too.

 

[John Thompson]

Something I was introduced to many years ago for British political life, is a chart for the State Opening of Parliament which acts like a solar return/new Moon in our political system. This is the only time that the Lords, the Commons and the Monarch are gathered together for the Monarchs speech. Although the speech is prepared in advance by the government of the day, the ceremony is incredibly important. I was introduced to this at the Federation of British Astrologers [a pure mundane group], and believe it was John Naylor who made this a staple for the group. He always cast the chart not for the start of the speech, but when the House of Lords representative 'Black Rod' summons the Commons to attend bringing the trinity of our system together. I usually time this moment precisely but unfortunately was unable to do so this year. Going back on my records, it normally has a time window of around 2 - 10 minutes after the Monarch is seated at 11:30, so have cast the chart for 11:35 GMT 17th July 2024 at Westminster. I think these charts are sadly neglected, and do respond well to transits/progressed Moon etc.