Anyone actually believe in Muses?

[sdh3]

Yes, I as Dr. Farr mentioned. I understand there to be a hierarchy of life on the planet, as discussed in the Theosophical work over the last 150 years. There's a mineral kingdom, a plant kingdom, animal kingdom, human kingdom, and also a devic or spiritual kingdom, and even higher ones. The Muses belong to that 5th kingdom--the spiritual kingdom (for lack of a better term).

 

[Humanitarian]

It was her astrology that got her accused of being a "witch", although there was also politics involved.

I hope that her astrological contrubutions are still here in Earth, but the reality is the opposite, and it's about the Christian cult in the Dark Ages, which is the 2nd least Christian period of Christianity behind the 2000s.

 

[Humanitarian]

Yes, I as Dr. Farr mentioned. I understand there to be a hierarchy of life on the planet, as discussed in the Theosophical work over the last 150 years. There's a mineral kingdom, a plant kingdom, animal kingdom, human kingdom, and also a devic or spiritual kingdom, and even higher ones. The Muses belong to that 5th kingdom--the spiritual kingdom (for lack of a better term).

And some people don't believe in the hierarchy of life, and even declares it as a part of the one principle, and so the Gaian biohierarchy doesn't exist, actually, because lifeforms in the universe are all one in Source.

 

[sdh3]

And some people don't believe in the hierarchy of life, and even declares it as a part of the one principle, and so the Gaian biohierarchy doesn't exist, actually, because lifeforms in the universe are all one in Source.

You've earned this point of view and thus are fully entitled to all that follows from it.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

The early Roman Catholic Church was replacing the Roman pantheon with a pantheon of Angels. But Jupiter was too well-loved to be easily cast aside.

So, the Church declared him to be an evil demon, chosen by Satan to deceive his worshipers into believing he was good.

A goddess replacement was also necessary, because the Angels were considered to be male. So, there was an informal acknowledgement of the Virgin Mary as "goddess-like", who could be worshipped, although not a member of the Trinity or an Angel.

Wow, Jupiter turned into an evil demon!

That is such an interesting piece of historical information.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

I’ve just read this thread again and I think I understand it better than I did the last time.

I have some books on the to-buy list that talk about the archetypes and how they are living inside us still.

And when they are ignored and suppressed, they become angry and vengeful, and appear to us as some negative obstruction in our lives, just like the shadow does.

It’s interesting that the feminine principle being suppressed is the cause of this.

I am going to start thinking of the planets as muses that I can ask for advice, just like I do with God, and see what’s happens.

I might even start asking animals for advice! And my cats.

 

[Ukpoohbear]

‘It is the genius of Jung to argue that ‘Gods’ exist, but only metaphorically and only in a natural dimension. That natural dimension is the psyche. From this perspective, the Gods are dead, but the Gods are alive and well - or, I would say, the literal is dead but the metaphorical is alive and well. As Hillman says, ‘Nothing is literal, all is metaphor.’ The Gods continue to ‘exist,’ as they always have, in the psyche. In this respect, to be psychological is to be metaphorical. It is to realise, once and for all, that the gods are metaphors - personifications (or deifications) in the psyche.’
— The Mythological Unconscious, Michael Vannoy Adams

 

[Ukpoohbear]

@david starling if you enjoy podcasts, I think you would love this one called ‘Archetypes and the Planets.’

‘astrologer Jenny Montgomery and novelist Béa Gonzalez do a deep dive into each of the planetary archetypes through history, myth and the astrological chart.’

‎Archetypes and the Planets on Apple Podcasts

‎Education · 2024

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