piercethevale
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Arabic Part of Imprisonment
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Hopefully it's fine that I'm bumping this thread, but I was reading another one where you mentioned your Part of Imprisonment, so I got curious about where that was in my chart, and I found this thread.
For me, this is my Part of Imprisonment, and I can actually explain exactly how it relates to my life.
This is exactly what I am denied in my life due to circumstance, and it has a huge impact. I've always made these vague complaints on various forums that I don't know where internal motivation is supposed to come from, people keep asking me "what do you want," telling me I need to be "hungry," or "take on responsibility," and the problem is that... it feels like I just don't have it in me to do that? People see it as laziness, but the truth is it just feels like there's something missing inside me... like everyone else has a boat with an engine, and I'm trying to paddle with simple oars, and they don't understand why I am not keeping up.
But now it all makes sense. The reason I can't do those things is because I've been "denied" the compulsion for gain, and the capacity to carry a heavy burden and take care of myself and others that naturally arises from such a compulsion. Other people are better at this because there's a natural ambition, a drive in them to build a sense of individual self-hood and nurture something within themselves that makes the load of responsibility associated with working adult life feel light.
For me, the burdens seem heavy because there's nothing in the outside world that I want enough to motivate me to do the work needed to get to a point where I could "mobilize myself" and start gaining money. So it feels like I am expected to fight very hard for goals that don't motivate me very much, like those opportunities themselves are supposed to get my blood pumping, and they just... don't.
The few times I remember being motivated were primarily when it involved getting someone else out of a jam, or when it involved learning something. That is, I'm motivated to gain knowledge or deepen social connections in some cases, but I'm not motivated to gain wealth or power. And that keeps me trapped, because everything is built around the assumption that you have something you want that you are naturally motivated to put a lot of effort into, and no one really knows what advice to give you or how to help you if you aren't like that.
So, that's what it's like to have Taurus 13 as your part of imprisonment. The symbolism was immediately obvious to me.
For me, this is my Part of Imprisonment, and I can actually explain exactly how it relates to my life.
This is exactly what I am denied in my life due to circumstance, and it has a huge impact. I've always made these vague complaints on various forums that I don't know where internal motivation is supposed to come from, people keep asking me "what do you want," telling me I need to be "hungry," or "take on responsibility," and the problem is that... it feels like I just don't have it in me to do that? People see it as laziness, but the truth is it just feels like there's something missing inside me... like everyone else has a boat with an engine, and I'm trying to paddle with simple oars, and they don't understand why I am not keeping up.
But now it all makes sense. The reason I can't do those things is because I've been "denied" the compulsion for gain, and the capacity to carry a heavy burden and take care of myself and others that naturally arises from such a compulsion. Other people are better at this because there's a natural ambition, a drive in them to build a sense of individual self-hood and nurture something within themselves that makes the load of responsibility associated with working adult life feel light.
For me, the burdens seem heavy because there's nothing in the outside world that I want enough to motivate me to do the work needed to get to a point where I could "mobilize myself" and start gaining money. So it feels like I am expected to fight very hard for goals that don't motivate me very much, like those opportunities themselves are supposed to get my blood pumping, and they just... don't.
The few times I remember being motivated were primarily when it involved getting someone else out of a jam, or when it involved learning something. That is, I'm motivated to gain knowledge or deepen social connections in some cases, but I'm not motivated to gain wealth or power. And that keeps me trapped, because everything is built around the assumption that you have something you want that you are naturally motivated to put a lot of effort into, and no one really knows what advice to give you or how to help you if you aren't like that.
So, that's what it's like to have Taurus 13 as your part of imprisonment. The symbolism was immediately obvious to me.
piercethevale
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Outstanding that you have found the relevance in the symbology for this Astrological Part.
No, I don't mind you giving this old thread a bump, as any constructive input, at any time, is always welcome in my threads. It's the very reason for my being a part of this forum the last 17 years.
The greatest, and most useful, discovery, I've ever made, is the relevance of the Sabian Symbols to Astrological Parts. I suspect that Dane Rudhyar knew this, or at least suspected it, but Dane didn't have the advantage of acquiring accurate birth data until late in his life as it was not until after W.W. II that accurate records had become the rule rather than the exception... and mostly rare exceptions prior to that time.
If I recall correctly He wrote in his book "Astrological Aspects, A Process Oriented Approach" in the early 1980's, that he had but two [or it may have been as many as five but no more than that] natal charts in his files collected over his lifetime of people that had a "Star of David", aka Grand Sextile, matrix configuration. I got to meet 7 people that had such, and in more perfect form, in just a five year period, 2002 n- 2007, and I've seen at least more than a dozen more in the 40 years I've been studying this "science".
I recently found that I have arrived to believe that the wisdom gained from the utilization of the Sabian Symbols in Astrological horoscope analysis is more useful, more illuminating, than what one derives from the analysis of geometric aspects, House placement, dignities, debilities, exaltations and the like. Yet, the symbolism one finds for House cusps is of great importance and use and there is much the same to be said for the use of the symbols in the analysis of aspects.
The use of the symbols in understanding the chart axis, I.e. the meridian and the horizon, is a study, and understanding gained, of the polarity of the opposition. The use of the symbols in geometric aspects is also highly illuminating. Take for example the Grand Quintile, aka the Pentagram, it is symbolic of a perfect plot line, as related to a "story", and when applied to the mid haven of ones' natal chart it is revealed as the perfect path of progression to follow in ones life. i.e. that which is most complimentary, and conducive, to completing ones' dharma in this present lifetime. The degree symbolism involved in "T Squares", can resolve the conflict of the aspect, as well as that of Yods and the like.
Thank you for your reply, your astute observations, and analysis. I found them to be of important and much appreciated validation
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